Re: [WebDNA] Help with STMP Setup using Authentication with Google
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texte = 852 We are moving from a machine with OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) to macOS = 10.12.2 (Sierra - latest public build). WebDNA is using Server = Unlimited license on both. Partly why we are going through this=E2=80=A6 Here=E2=80=99s some quick information from WebCatalog to help you better = understand our environment. Mountain Lion Statistics (Old machine): WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy This serial number is licensed to run Unlimited = Domains This serial number is licensed to open = Unlimited databases at one time WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 6.2 Sierra Statistics (New machine): WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy This serial number is licensed to run Unlimited = Domains This serial number is licensed to open = Unlimited databases at one time WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 8.2 Hope that helps! Andrew Burger > On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Donovan Brooke
wrote: >=20 > Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If so, what OS = and version? >=20 > Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version? >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >=20 >> Hi Donovan. >>=20 >> Excellent question. Not using server sandboxes in this case (because = this is not a shared server situation). We are using a dedicated = physical server for this. >>=20 >> We can do whatever is needed on the server in every respect, with the = exception of what I=E2=80=99m trying to pass through Google Apps with = Auth/SMTP, etc. Ideally, I=E2=80=99d prefer not configure / = troubleshoot / secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real = pain) if possible. But, that being said, I=E2=80=99ll do what I have to = do. ;-) >>=20 >> Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting. Now that I have = the info from email notices, I=E2=80=99ll go ahead and report that. >>=20 >> Thanks! >>=20 >>=20 >> Andrew Burger >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>=20 >>> One common mistake (I still make this mistake sometimes)=E2=80=A6=20 >>> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance? >>>=20 >>> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bottom of this = email. >>>=20 >>> Sincerely, >>> Donovan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>=20 >>>> Objective: >>>> We are currently in the middle of migrating our production WebDNA 6 = server to a new one with WebDNA 8. The remaining piece left to get = working is having WebDNA send out email message via the sendmail = command. >>>>=20 >>>> Current Setup: >>>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works via localhost = (although exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery to me = since we haven=E2=80=99t done any additional mail services setup on that = server but anyway=E2=80=A6). More to the point, I=E2=80=99ve been able = to get the current production WebDNA server to work, as long as the = proper SPF record was in place. So we have a working routine in = production now. >>>>=20 >>>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot: >>>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=E2=80=99ve been unable to get the = sendmail command to send out a valid message. I have done verifications = through WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have properly processed the = message and confirmed that it =E2=80=9Csent=E2=80=9D in the Email log = file. However, no message appears to go through to the recipients. = I=E2=80=99ve even gone through an additional setup of setting up the G = Suite SMTP relay server and whitelisted the originating IP address of = the new WebDNA server inside the Relay settings and whitelisting the IP = for emails in Google Admin for regular SMTP (in addition to the proper = SPF record like I did for the currently working server). I haven=E2=80=99= t gotten any SPF passes or rejections though, so I=E2=80=99m not even = entirely confident that it=E2=80=99s even getting to Google servers yet = for processing. >>>>=20 >>>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email authentication working = with Google Apps email? I would truly appreciate anyone that has some = insight from anyone that=E2=80=99s got this to work or whether we can = confirm if something has changed with the mechanism used for the = sendmail command between WebDNA 6 or 8... >>>>=20 >>>> Sorry if that=E2=80=99s a lot of information up front but wanted to = explain what I=E2=80=99m trying to accomplish and the steps taken so far = to generate some useful feedback. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks so much and happy holidays! >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Andrew Burger >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you. Just subscribed to the list and = looking forward to getting to learn from the rest of you. >>>>=20 >>>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalog Email Setup = preferences in WebDNA Server 8. It doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be = possible to uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web interface = once you enable it. Had to manually force the param value back to 0 = through a WebDNA call to switch back and test =E2=80=98localhost' = settings. Is there a proper way to report bugs like this or is already = a known issue?--------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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852 We are moving from a machine with OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) to macOS = 10.12.2 (Sierra - latest public build). WebDNA is using Server = Unlimited license on both. Partly why we are going through this=E2=80=A6 Here=E2=80=99s some quick information from WebCatalog to help you better = understand our environment. Mountain Lion Statistics (Old machine): WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy This serial number is licensed to run Unlimited = Domains This serial number is licensed to open = Unlimited databases at one time WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 6.2 Sierra Statistics (New machine): WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy This serial number is licensed to run Unlimited = Domains This serial number is licensed to open = Unlimited databases at one time WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 8.2 Hope that helps! Andrew Burger > On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >=20 > Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If so, what OS = and version? >=20 > Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version? >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >=20 >> Hi Donovan. >>=20 >> Excellent question. Not using server sandboxes in this case (because = this is not a shared server situation). We are using a dedicated = physical server for this. >>=20 >> We can do whatever is needed on the server in every respect, with the = exception of what I=E2=80=99m trying to pass through Google Apps with = Auth/SMTP, etc. Ideally, I=E2=80=99d prefer not configure / = troubleshoot / secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real = pain) if possible. But, that being said, I=E2=80=99ll do what I have to = do. ;-) >>=20 >> Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting. Now that I have = the info from email notices, I=E2=80=99ll go ahead and report that. >>=20 >> Thanks! >>=20 >>=20 >> Andrew Burger >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>=20 >>> One common mistake (I still make this mistake sometimes)=E2=80=A6=20 >>> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance? >>>=20 >>> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bottom of this = email. >>>=20 >>> Sincerely, >>> Donovan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>=20 >>>> Objective: >>>> We are currently in the middle of migrating our production WebDNA 6 = server to a new one with WebDNA 8. The remaining piece left to get = working is having WebDNA send out email message via the sendmail = command. >>>>=20 >>>> Current Setup: >>>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works via localhost = (although exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery to me = since we haven=E2=80=99t done any additional mail services setup on that = server but anyway=E2=80=A6). More to the point, I=E2=80=99ve been able = to get the current production WebDNA server to work, as long as the = proper SPF record was in place. So we have a working routine in = production now. >>>>=20 >>>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot: >>>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=E2=80=99ve been unable to get the = sendmail command to send out a valid message. I have done verifications = through WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have properly processed the = message and confirmed that it =E2=80=9Csent=E2=80=9D in the Email log = file. However, no message appears to go through to the recipients. = I=E2=80=99ve even gone through an additional setup of setting up the G = Suite SMTP relay server and whitelisted the originating IP address of = the new WebDNA server inside the Relay settings and whitelisting the IP = for emails in Google Admin for regular SMTP (in addition to the proper = SPF record like I did for the currently working server). I haven=E2=80=99= t gotten any SPF passes or rejections though, so I=E2=80=99m not even = entirely confident that it=E2=80=99s even getting to Google servers yet = for processing. >>>>=20 >>>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email authentication working = with Google Apps email? I would truly appreciate anyone that has some = insight from anyone that=E2=80=99s got this to work or whether we can = confirm if something has changed with the mechanism used for the = sendmail command between WebDNA 6 or 8... >>>>=20 >>>> Sorry if that=E2=80=99s a lot of information up front but wanted to = explain what I=E2=80=99m trying to accomplish and the steps taken so far = to generate some useful feedback. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks so much and happy holidays! >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Andrew Burger >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you. Just subscribed to the list and = looking forward to getting to learn from the rest of you. >>>>=20 >>>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalog Email Setup = preferences in WebDNA Server 8. It doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be = possible to uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web interface = once you enable it. Had to manually force the param value back to 0 = through a WebDNA call to switch back and test =E2=80=98localhost' = settings. Is there a proper way to report bugs like this or is already = a known issue?--------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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