Re: [WebDNA] Mailing list failure !!!
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2019
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = 2556Hi KenMy email is hosted on a Google service. 100% of my email goes out from Googl=e SMTP.=20I didn=E2=80=99t get Richard=E2=80=99s posts which aligns with your explanat=ion, however I never receive my own posts, so I guess Google is not respecti=ng the list server.=20RegardsStuart TremainPharoah Lane Software=207/76 Reserve Road=20Artarmon NSW 2064AUSTRALIA+612 8971 4431> On 10 Oct 2019, at 4:38 am, WebDNA Solutions
wro=te:>=20> =EF=BB=BF>>=20>> Email sent to this list is forwarded on with the from>> address intact - in this case a *@yahoo.com address ...>=20> Hi Tom,>=20> Who is using a yahoo.com address?>=20> I've been referring to Richard Kwasniewski's emails in this> thread because he seems to be the only person whose posts> I have failed to receive lately, and he uses a Google address,> not a Yahoo address. So are you referring to someone else?> If so, who?>=20>=20>> the WebDNA list server is clearly not a Yahoo server.>=20> This does not matter because the headers added by the list> server identify it as a list server, and therefore it is not> subject to the same DMARC policies as the original sender.>=20> Here's my understanding:>=20> Any misaligned posts received and then sent out by the> list server will be rejected by the final mail server *IF*> that final mail server is a Yahoo or Google SMTP server *OR*> if that final mail server employs the same strict DMARC> policies as Google or Yahoo.>=20> This explains why some of us receive all talk list posts> while others do not. Bottom line:>=20> If your subscribed address is provided by Google or Yahoo> you will NOT always receive every talk list post when the> original sender posted via a misaligned SMTP server.>=20> I think these DMARC mail delivery failures would "go away> completely" if the subscribers to this list would always use> their email account provider's SMTP servers. In other words:>=20> 1- If your subscribed email address is provided by Google,> always send your posts via the Google SMTP server.>=20> 2- If your subscribed email address is provided by Yahoo,> always send your posts via the Yahoo SMTP server.>=20> 3- If your subscribed email address is provided by any other> company that strictly applies DMARC policies, always send your> posts via that company's SMTP server.>=20> Regards,> Kenneth Grome> WebDNA Solutions> http://www.webdnasolutions.com> Urgent/Emergency Phone: (228) 222-2917> Website, Database, Network, and Communication Systems>=20>=20>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list talk@webdna.us> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list talk@webdna.usTo unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.usarchives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us.
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2556Hi KenMy email is hosted on a Google service. 100% of my email goes out from Googl=e SMTP.=20I didn=E2=80=99t get Richard=E2=80=99s posts which aligns with your explanat=ion, however I never receive my own posts, so I guess Google is not respecti=ng the list server.=20RegardsStuart TremainPharoah Lane Software=207/76 Reserve Road=20Artarmon NSW 2064AUSTRALIA+612 8971 4431> On 10 Oct 2019, at 4:38 am, WebDNA Solutions wro=te:>=20> =EF=BB=BF>>=20>> Email sent to this list is forwarded on with the from>> address intact - in this case a *@yahoo.com address ...>=20> Hi Tom,>=20> Who is using a yahoo.com address?>=20> I've been referring to Richard Kwasniewski's emails in this> thread because he seems to be the only person whose posts> I have failed to receive lately, and he uses a Google address,> not a Yahoo address. So are you referring to someone else?> If so, who?>=20>=20>> the WebDNA list server is clearly not a Yahoo server.>=20> This does not matter because the headers added by the list> server identify it as a list server, and therefore it is not> subject to the same DMARC policies as the original sender.>=20> Here's my understanding:>=20> Any misaligned posts received and then sent out by the> list server will be rejected by the final mail server *IF*> that final mail server is a Yahoo or Google SMTP server *OR*> if that final mail server employs the same strict DMARC> policies as Google or Yahoo.>=20> This explains why some of us receive all Talk List posts> while others do not. Bottom line:>=20> If your subscribed address is provided by Google or Yahoo> you will NOT always receive every Talk List post when the> original sender posted via a misaligned SMTP server.>=20> I think these DMARC mail delivery failures would "go away> completely" if the subscribers to this list would always use> their email account provider's SMTP servers. In other words:>=20> 1- If your subscribed email address is provided by Google,> always send your posts via the Google SMTP server.>=20> 2- If your subscribed email address is provided by Yahoo,> always send your posts via the Yahoo SMTP server.>=20> 3- If your subscribed email address is provided by any other> company that strictly applies DMARC policies, always send your> posts via that company's SMTP server.>=20> Regards,> Kenneth Grome> WebDNA Solutions> http://www.webdnasolutions.com> Urgent/Emergency Phone: (228) 222-2917> Website, Database, Network, and Communication Systems>=20>=20>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list talk@webdna.us> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list talk@webdna.usTo unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.usarchives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us.
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