Re: New syntax feedback for 4.0
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2000
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = I do like this method but I also like the [ brackets ]What if we had:[DNA_loop start=1&end=10] [DNAindex] [/DNAloop]and you could pick.I also don't want to have to put in the header of any of my pages. Infact I really don't want to put anything in the header of my pages. :)So if we could stick with the old method but add DNA to every tag I would like that.You have to be careful though - Microsoft is pushing their DNA technology and I believe Motorola has Digital DNA technology. Just touchy ground... Jesse Proudman - NineWire Productions http://www.ninewire.com <-> jesse@ninewire.com Innovative and Creative Web Design and Hosting> -----Original Message----- > From: webcatalog-beta@talk.smithmicro.com > [mailto:webcatalog-beta@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Charles Kline > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 5:05 AM > To: webcatalog-beta@talk.smithmicro.com > Subject: Re: New syntax feedback for 4.0 > > > Grant, > > I think this is the most logical way to go, it allows us to use what > we already know with the smallest of changes. > > >
> > > > > > Also, doing a global find/replace on existing code to the new > standard, would be a breeze. > > - Charles > > > > > >Hey guys, we are entering into the decision phase for our DreamWeaver > >syntax for 4.0, and I'd like to open up a small discussion to help me > >decide which way to go. This information is confidential, and should > >not be discussed outside this list. > > > >Background: WebDNA's [] syntax tends to make most GUI editors like > >DreamWeaver get confused. We decided Mohammed should go to the > >mountain in this case, so we are modifying WebCatalog's syntax to > >match what GUI editors expect to see. > > > >So for 4.0, one can optionally write two different kinds of > snytax in WebDNA: > > > >[Loop start=1&end=10] > >[index] > >[/Loop] > > > >or > > > >
> > > > > > > >This works well for most contexts, but there are a few exceptions > >that can confuse most parsers. Specifically, ShowIf can contain > >characters like > which look just like HTML to a parser: > > > >
3> > > ^ looks a lot like followed by a 3 > > > >...so one solution is to force all contexts to use named/quoted > parameters: > > > >3> > > > >..but that's really starting to look stupid. I'm not so worried > >about the amount of typing involved, because the GUI editor is going > >to be doing most of the work anyway, but it still looks pretty weird, > >and I think it's hard to follow. > > > >Another solution would be to change the syntax of ShowIf itself: > > > > > > > >...but I don't like this one because it requires a lot more than a > >simple global search and replace in a text editor to make this kind > >of change to pre-existing old-style WebDNA code. > > > >There's also a hybrid approach that would allow both a named- and > >non-named syntax to be allowed: > > > >3> or 3> > > > >The first is more easily readable by people hand-tying the code, and > >the second is more easily parsed by GUI editors. I'm leaning toward > >that one. > > > >Thanks for your feedback! > > > >Grant Hulbert, Director of Engineering ********************************** > >Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) > >16855 West Bernardo Drive, #380 | ------------------------- > >San Diego, CA 92127 | Software & Site Development > >Main Line: (858) 675-1106 | http://www.smithmicro.com > > Fax: (858) 675-0372 > ********************************** > > > >############################################################# > >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > >To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to > > > >Send administrative queries to > > > > ############################################################# > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to > > Send administrative queries to > > > ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to
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I do like this method but I also like the [ brackets ]What if we had:[DNA_loop start=1&end=10] [DNAindex] [/DNAloop]and you could pick.I also don't want to have to put in the header of any of my pages. Infact I really don't want to put anything in the header of my pages. :)So if we could stick with the old method but add DNA to every tag I would like that.You have to be careful though - Microsoft is pushing their DNA technology and I believe Motorola has Digital DNA technology. Just touchy ground... Jesse Proudman - NineWire Productions http://www.ninewire.com <-> jesse@ninewire.com Innovative and Creative Web Design and Hosting> -----Original Message----- > From: webcatalog-beta@talk.smithmicro.com > [mailto:webcatalog-beta@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of Charles Kline > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 5:05 AM > To: webcatalog-beta@talk.smithmicro.com > Subject: Re: New syntax feedback for 4.0 > > > Grant, > > I think this is the most logical way to go, it allows us to use what > we already know with the smallest of changes. > > > > > > > > > Also, doing a global find/replace on existing code to the new > standard, would be a breeze. > > - Charles > > > > > >Hey guys, we are entering into the decision phase for our DreamWeaver > >syntax for 4.0, and I'd like to open up a small discussion to help me > >decide which way to go. This information is confidential, and should > >not be discussed outside this list. > > > >Background: WebDNA's [] syntax tends to make most GUI editors like > >DreamWeaver get confused. We decided Mohammed should go to the > >mountain in this case, so we are modifying WebCatalog's syntax to > >match what GUI editors expect to see. > > > >So for 4.0, one can optionally write two different kinds of > snytax in WebDNA: > > > >[Loop start=1&end=10] > >[index] > >[/Loop] > > > >or > > > > > > > > > > > >This works well for most contexts, but there are a few exceptions > >that can confuse most parsers. Specifically, ShowIf can contain > >characters like > which look just like HTML to a parser: > > > >3> > > ^ looks a lot like followed by a 3 > > > >...so one solution is to force all contexts to use named/quoted > parameters: > > > >3> > > > >..but that's really starting to look stupid. I'm not so worried > >about the amount of typing involved, because the GUI editor is going > >to be doing most of the work anyway, but it still looks pretty weird, > >and I think it's hard to follow. > > > >Another solution would be to change the syntax of ShowIf itself: > > > > > > > >...but I don't like this one because it requires a lot more than a > >simple global search and replace in a text editor to make this kind > >of change to pre-existing old-style WebDNA code. > > > >There's also a hybrid approach that would allow both a named- and > >non-named syntax to be allowed: > > > >3> or 3> > > > >The first is more easily readable by people hand-tying the code, and > >the second is more easily parsed by GUI editors. I'm leaning toward > >that one. > > > >Thanks for your feedback! > > > >Grant Hulbert, Director of Engineering ********************************** > >Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) > >16855 West Bernardo Drive, #380 | ------------------------- > >San Diego, CA 92127 | Software & Site Development > >Main Line: (858) 675-1106 | http://www.smithmicro.com > > Fax: (858) 675-0372 > ********************************** > > > >############################################################# > >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > >To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to > > > >Send administrative queries to > > > > ############################################################# > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to > > Send administrative queries to > > > ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to
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