Re: ANN: Strategic Partnership with BuyStream Announced.
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numero = 33892
interpreted = N
texte = Your Honor; on 6/28/00 9:39 AM, the Defendant, John Peacock, confessed:> Bob - > > www.zzounds.com - impressive site. Too bad they have effectively hidden > the fact they are running WebCat. I know it is good security practice > to not acknowledge what system you are running, but it is a shame they > cannot act as a powerful advertisement for WebCat. Did you program the > site? > > I really didn't mean to sound too arrogant, but anyone who thinks $3495 > is a lot of money for WebCat, or $2000 is a lot for good site analysis > software has never priced out an Oracle support contract. And $35,000 > for site analysis focused on improving sales could be considered cheap, > if your monthly sales were $1,000,000+. Not that mine are anywhere near > that; we are mostly driving the marketing for our regular distribution > channel. Any web sales we get are basically gravy. > > John Peacock > > Bob Minor wrote: Hey, I would not mind paying the price if webcat had clustering abilities, Also keep in mind that until _VERY_ recently you couldn't look for a word and replace it. Pretty basic stuff, add in the bugs that have gone unfixed for _years_ and then talk to me about a **Support Contract** I know a lot of people would have been glad to pay for *any* support from PCS. back in the dayYou are quite correct that 35k is nothing on sites earning millions, *BUT* that ain't the people on this list. It ain't the people who have supported Webcat all these years and lived with crappy support and some fat 'issues'. I will bet that most of us are very hard working folk and we're getting by and doing OK. We aren't ebay, and frankly when SM starts touting ebayware when the product they are selling is already too high, I just get a little hincky about that. SosumeApple just took a $60,000 product, added a bunch of features and now it's $699. In my mind it's price is rather irrelevant, it's still a 60,000 product but they have obviously decided that the (UNIX,SERVERS,ENTERPRISE,INTERNET) business is something they really want. PHP is free, Coldfusion is 1200 or $5k if you want enterprise clustering. (995 for linux) and the aforementioned webobjects is 699. IMO, it's bad enough that webcat costs what it does, We bought it at the very edge of our budget and I **love** it. But I also know if I'd learned ColdFusion or PHP there are people willing to pay *A LOT* for those skills. I have a real warm place in my heart for Andreas Pardeike! I could live without webcat way before I could get by without welcome, and it was $35 with free upgrades. So tell me again how webcat is worth $5+ grand? (accounting for upgrades)-A- ****************************************************************** * Digital Speed Networks, and NineWire Productions have merged!! * * We are now NineWire Digital Solutions * * * ******************************************************************------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Your Honor; on 6/28/00 9:39 AM, the Defendant, John Peacock, confessed:> Bob - > > www.zzounds.com - impressive site. Too bad they have effectively hidden > the fact they are running WebCat. I know it is good security practice > to not acknowledge what system you are running, but it is a shame they > cannot act as a powerful advertisement for WebCat. Did you program the > site? > > I really didn't mean to sound too arrogant, but anyone who thinks $3495 > is a lot of money for WebCat, or $2000 is a lot for good site analysis > software has never priced out an Oracle support contract. And $35,000 > for site analysis focused on improving sales could be considered cheap, > if your monthly sales were $1,000,000+. Not that mine are anywhere near > that; we are mostly driving the marketing for our regular distribution > channel. Any web sales we get are basically gravy. > > John Peacock > > Bob Minor wrote: Hey, I would not mind paying the price if webcat had clustering abilities, Also keep in mind that until _VERY_ recently you couldn't look for a word and replace it. Pretty basic stuff, add in the bugs that have gone unfixed for _years_ and then talk to me about a **Support Contract** I know a lot of people would have been glad to pay for *any* support from PCS. back in the dayYou are quite correct that 35k is nothing on sites earning millions, *BUT* that ain't the people on this list. It ain't the people who have supported Webcat all these years and lived with crappy support and some fat 'issues'. I will bet that most of us are very hard working folk and we're getting by and doing OK. We aren't ebay, and frankly when SM starts touting ebayware when the product they are selling is already too high, I just get a little hincky about that. SosumeApple just took a $60,000 product, added a bunch of features and now it's $699. In my mind it's price is rather irrelevant, it's still a 60,000 product but they have obviously decided that the (UNIX,SERVERS,ENTERPRISE,INTERNET) business is something they really want. PHP is free, Coldfusion is 1200 or $5k if you want enterprise clustering. (995 for linux) and the aforementioned webobjects is 699. IMO, it's bad enough that webcat costs what it does, We bought it at the very edge of our budget and I **love** it. But I also know if I'd learned ColdFusion or PHP there are people willing to pay *A LOT* for those skills. I have a real warm place in my heart for Andreas Pardeike! I could live without webcat way before I could get by without welcome, and it was $35 with free upgrades. So tell me again how webcat is worth $5+ grand? (accounting for upgrades)-A- ****************************************************************** * Digital Speed Networks, and NineWire Productions have merged!! * * We are now NineWire Digital Solutions * * * ******************************************************************------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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