Re: The Form authentication trick
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2000
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 35436
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texte = Do you mean you need WebCat to sign some outgoing e-mails? You need PGP obviously and a shell script to do the signing. Note that you may need to hard-code your PGP password into the script; it has been some years since I toyed with PGP. I am not sure if you need the authentication password to sign a file, or only to encrypt it.In any case, this is mostly not a WebCat issue; I would look to any PGP FAQ's on the net.John PeacockBob Minor wrote: > > I need to PGP sign some outgoing emails on my *nix box, has anyone done this > and if so how. > > Sincerely, > > Robert Minor > Director of Internet Services > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Cybermill Communications > http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com > > Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and > hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, Unix, and AS/400. > > > From: John Butler
> > Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) > > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:38:32 > > To: (WebCatalog Talk) > > Subject: Re: The Form authentication trick > > > > Kalin, > > > > yes for the purposes of this 'trick', [authenticate] works as well. > > > > when you say it worked the first time and after that.... do you mean that > > when using NN, you can't > > *change* NN's cached username/password values from one set to another? > > If so then yes, this does seem to be the biggest drawback (but no worse than > > using the standard > > ugly-dialog method). Brice said he is getting around that by having the > > user 'logout' which > > actually goes to another page protected to another group (or > > authenticated to another group). > > What does he mean? I am not sure. He said- > > > > The solution are: > > - quit your browser session before switching personality [or] > > - use logout button that send the user to a page protected > > (on the same domain) to another group, which 'reset' his > > username/password settings. Then Login again. > > > > I think he means have the user go to a page which will show the [protect] or > > [authenticate] if > > username/password are not *blank* (null values)... which resets the > > username/password values in NN > > cache back to as if fresh from launch (after the user enters *nothing* in the > > ugly dialogue box and > > proceeds). If not that, then I do not understand what he means, and would > > love to hear a more > > elaborate explanation. It would be nice if Brice would jump in to explain... > > > > > > Or when you said it worked the first time and after that.... did you mean > > that even if you *quit* > > NN and relaunch then it will not let you in even once? If so, then that is > > truely baffling. If so, > > then what it is that you and Ken have in common that Brice and I don't? > > > > I use the following (which *always* works to login after quitting and > > relaunching NN): > > browser=G3 MacOS 9.04, NN 4.7 > > server = Linux/intel , Webcat 3.08 > > > > -John > > > > Kalin Mintchev wrote: > > > >> hi Brice: > >> > >> 4) on protected.tpl (and others pages) > >> use the usual [protect groupname] tag > >> > >> this says [protect groupname]. can this work with [authenticate] too? > >> i saw and tryed the demo it works for me. > >> the thing is i'm trying it (the idea you posted in The Form > >> authentication trick) with the [authenticate] tag and i get the same > >> results described by Kenneth Grome. it worked the first time and after > >> that.... > >> it seems everything works fine untill the browser gets to that login2.tpl > >> is there something else i'm missing?. > >> this is what i do: > >> page #1: > >> form with input names password and username, action=logon1.html. > >> page #2: logon1.html > >> [showif NotFound=[lookup > >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotF > >> ound]] > >> [redirect page1.html] > >> [/showif] > >> [showif [password]![lookup > >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotF > >> ound]] > >> [redirect page1.html] > >> [/showif] > >> [search > >> db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eq > >> passdatarq=[password]] > >> [showif [numFound]=0] > >> [redirect page1.html] > >> [/showif] > >> [/search] > >> [redirect > >> http://[encrypt][username]:[password][/encrypt]@www.mysite.com/login2.html] > >> > >> page #3: logon2.html > >> in the header: > >> >> HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0;URL=http://www.mysite/protected.html> > >> the protected page has this in it: > >> [showif NotFound=[lookup > >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotF > >> ound]] > >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] > >> [/showif] > >> [showif [password]![lookup > >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotF > >> ound]] > >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] > >> [/showif] > >> [search > >> db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eq > >> passdatarq=[password]] > >> [showif [numFound]=0] > >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] > >> [/showif] > >> [/search] > >> > >> so when i put real username and passwrd in page1.html i reach login2.html > >> and then the ugly dialog box shows up. > >> it never shows me the protected.html. > >> if i enter the password and username again there everything is ok > >> > >> any comment will be helpful. > >> thanks. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Do you mean you need WebCat to sign some outgoing e-mails? You need PGP obviously and a shell script to do the signing. Note that you may need to hard-code your PGP password into the script; it has been some years since I toyed with PGP. I am not sure if you need the authentication password to sign a file, or only to encrypt it.In any case, this is mostly not a WebCat issue; I would look to any PGP FAQ's on the net.John PeacockBob Minor wrote: > > I need to PGP sign some outgoing emails on my *nix box, has anyone done this > and if so how. > > Sincerely, > > Robert Minor > Director of Internet Services > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Cybermill Communications > http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.com > > Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and > hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, Unix, and AS/400. > > > From: John Butler > > Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) > > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:38:32 > > To: (WebCatalog Talk) > > Subject: Re: The Form authentication trick > > > > Kalin, > > > > yes for the purposes of this 'trick', [authenticate] works as well. > > > > when you say it worked the first time and after that.... do you mean that > > when using NN, you can't > > *change* NN's cached username/password values from one set to another? > > If so then yes, this does seem to be the biggest drawback (but no worse than > > using the standard > > ugly-dialog method). Brice said he is getting around that by having the > > user 'logout' which > > actually goes to another page protected to another group (or > > authenticated to another group). > > What does he mean? I am not sure. He said- > > > > The solution are: > > - quit your browser session before switching personality [or] > > - use logout button that send the user to a page protected > > (on the same domain) to another group, which 'reset' his > > username/password settings. Then Login again. > > > > I think he means have the user go to a page which will show the [protect] or > > [authenticate] if > > username/password are not *blank* (null values)... which resets the > > username/password values in NN > > cache back to as if fresh from launch (after the user enters *nothing* in the > > ugly dialogue box and > > proceeds). If not that, then I do not understand what he means, and would > > love to hear a more > > elaborate explanation. It would be nice if Brice would jump in to explain... > > > > > > Or when you said it worked the first time and after that.... did you mean > > that even if you *quit* > > NN and relaunch then it will not let you in even once? If so, then that is > > truely baffling. If so, > > then what it is that you and Ken have in common that Brice and I don't? > > > > I use the following (which *always* works to login after quitting and > > relaunching NN): > > browser=G3 MacOS 9.04, NN 4.7 > > server = Linux/intel , Webcat 3.08 > > > > -John > > > > Kalin Mintchev wrote: > > > >> hi Brice: > >> > >> 4) on protected.tpl (and others pages) > >> use the usual [protect groupname] tag > >> > >> this says [protect groupname]. can this work with [authenticate] too? > >> i saw and tryed the demo it works for me. > >> the thing is i'm trying it (the idea you posted in The Form > >> authentication trick) with the [authenticate] tag and i get the same > >> results described by Kenneth Grome. it worked the first time and after > >> that.... > >> it seems everything works fine untill the browser gets to that login2.tpl > >> is there something else i'm missing?. > >> this is what i do: > >> page #1: > >> form with input names password and username, action=logon1.html. > >> page #2: logon1.html > >> [showif NotFound=[lookup > >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotF > >> ound]] > >> [redirect page1.html] > >> [/showif] > >> [showif [password]![lookup > >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotF > >> ound]] > >> [redirect page1.html] > >> [/showif] > >> [search > >> db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eq > >> passdatarq=[password]] > >> [showif [numFound]=0] > >> [redirect page1.html] > >> [/showif] > >> [/search] > >> [redirect > >> http://[encrypt][username]:[password][/encrypt]@www.mysite.com/login2.html] > >> > >> page #3: logon2.html > >> in the header: > >> >> HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0;URL=http://www.mysite/protected.html> > >> the protected page has this in it: > >> [showif NotFound=[lookup > >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotF > >> ound]] > >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] > >> [/showif] > >> [showif [password]![lookup > >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotF > >> ound]] > >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] > >> [/showif] > >> [search > >> db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eq > >> passdatarq=[password]] > >> [showif [numFound]=0] > >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] > >> [/showif] > >> [/search] > >> > >> so when i put real username and passwrd in page1.html i reach login2.html > >> and then the ugly dialog box shows up. > >> it never shows me the protected.html. > >> if i enter the password and username again there everything is ok > >> > >> any comment will be helpful. > >> thanks. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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