Re: The Form authentication trick
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texte = I need to PGP sign some outgoing emails on my *nix box, has anyone done this and if so how.Sincerely,Robert Minor Director of Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ Cybermill Communications http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.comProviding Ecommerce and interactive website development and hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, Unix, and AS/400.> From: John Butler
> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:38:32 > To: (WebCatalog Talk) > Subject: Re: The Form authentication trick > > Kalin, > > yes for the purposes of this 'trick', [authenticate] works as well. > > when you say it worked the first time and after that.... do you mean that > when using NN, you can't > *change* NN's cached username/password values from one set to another? > If so then yes, this does seem to be the biggest drawback (but no worse than > using the standard > ugly-dialog method). Brice said he is getting around that by having the > user 'logout' which > actually goes to another page protected to another group (or > authenticated to another group). > What does he mean? I am not sure. He said- > > The solution are: > - quit your browser session before switching personality [or] > - use logout button that send the user to a page protected > (on the same domain) to another group, which 'reset' his > username/password settings. Then Login again. > > I think he means have the user go to a page which will show the [protect] or > [authenticate] if > username/password are not *blank* (null values)... which resets the > username/password values in NN > cache back to as if fresh from launch (after the user enters *nothing* in the > ugly dialogue box and > proceeds). If not that, then I do not understand what he means, and would > love to hear a more > elaborate explanation. It would be nice if Brice would jump in to explain... > > > Or when you said it worked the first time and after that.... did you mean > that even if you *quit* > NN and relaunch then it will not let you in even once? If so, then that is > truely baffling. If so, > then what it is that you and Ken have in common that Brice and I don't? > > I use the following (which *always* works to login after quitting and > relaunching NN): > browser=G3 MacOS 9.04, NN 4.7 > server = Linux/intel , Webcat 3.08 > > -John > > Kalin Mintchev wrote: > >> hi Brice: >> >> 4) on protected.tpl (and others pages) >> use the usual [protect groupname] tag >> >> this says [protect groupname]. can this work with [authenticate] too? >> i saw and tryed the demo it works for me. >> the thing is i'm trying it (the idea you posted in The Form >> authentication trick) with the [authenticate] tag and i get the same >> results described by Kenneth Grome. it worked the first time and after >> that.... >> it seems everything works fine untill the browser gets to that login2.tpl >> is there something else i'm missing?. >> this is what i do: >> page #1: >> form with input names password and username, action=logon1.html. >> page #2: logon1.html >> [showif NotFound=[lookup >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotF >> ound]] >> [redirect page1.html] >> [/showif] >> [showif [password]![lookup >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotF >> ound]] >> [redirect page1.html] >> [/showif] >> [search >> db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eq >> passdatarq=[password]] >> [showif [numFound]=0] >> [redirect page1.html] >> [/showif] >> [/search] >> [redirect >> http://[encrypt][username]:[password][/encrypt]@www.mysite.com/login2.html] >> >> page #3: logon2.html >> in the header: >> > HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0;URL=http://www.mysite/protected.html> >> the protected page has this in it: >> [showif NotFound=[lookup >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotF >> ound]] >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] >> [/showif] >> [showif [password]![lookup >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotF >> ound]] >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] >> [/showif] >> [search >> db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eq >> passdatarq=[password]] >> [showif [numFound]=0] >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] >> [/showif] >> [/search] >> >> so when i put real username and passwrd in page1.html i reach login2.html >> and then the ugly dialog box shows up. >> it never shows me the protected.html. >> if i enter the password and username again there everything is ok >> >> any comment will be helpful. >> thanks. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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I need to PGP sign some outgoing emails on my *nix box, has anyone done this and if so how.Sincerely,Robert Minor Director of Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ Cybermill Communications http://www.cybermill.com http://www.merchantmaker.comProviding Ecommerce and interactive website development and hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, Unix, and AS/400.> From: John Butler > Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:38:32 > To: (WebCatalog Talk) > Subject: Re: The Form authentication trick > > Kalin, > > yes for the purposes of this 'trick', [authenticate] works as well. > > when you say it worked the first time and after that.... do you mean that > when using NN, you can't > *change* NN's cached username/password values from one set to another? > If so then yes, this does seem to be the biggest drawback (but no worse than > using the standard > ugly-dialog method). Brice said he is getting around that by having the > user 'logout' which > actually goes to another page protected to another group (or > authenticated to another group). > What does he mean? I am not sure. He said- > > The solution are: > - quit your browser session before switching personality [or] > - use logout button that send the user to a page protected > (on the same domain) to another group, which 'reset' his > username/password settings. Then Login again. > > I think he means have the user go to a page which will show the [protect] or > [authenticate] if > username/password are not *blank* (null values)... which resets the > username/password values in NN > cache back to as if fresh from launch (after the user enters *nothing* in the > ugly dialogue box and > proceeds). If not that, then I do not understand what he means, and would > love to hear a more > elaborate explanation. It would be nice if Brice would jump in to explain... > > > Or when you said it worked the first time and after that.... did you mean > that even if you *quit* > NN and relaunch then it will not let you in even once? If so, then that is > truely baffling. If so, > then what it is that you and Ken have in common that Brice and I don't? > > I use the following (which *always* works to login after quitting and > relaunching NN): > browser=G3 MacOS 9.04, NN 4.7 > server = Linux/intel , Webcat 3.08 > > -John > > Kalin Mintchev wrote: > >> hi Brice: >> >> 4) on protected.tpl (and others pages) >> use the usual [protect groupname] tag >> >> this says [protect groupname]. can this work with [authenticate] too? >> i saw and tryed the demo it works for me. >> the thing is i'm trying it (the idea you posted in The Form >> authentication trick) with the [authenticate] tag and i get the same >> results described by Kenneth Grome. it worked the first time and after >> that.... >> it seems everything works fine untill the browser gets to that login2.tpl >> is there something else i'm missing?. >> this is what i do: >> page #1: >> form with input names password and username, action=logon1.html. >> page #2: logon1.html >> [showif NotFound=[lookup >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotF >> ound]] >> [redirect page1.html] >> [/showif] >> [showif [password]![lookup >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotF >> ound]] >> [redirect page1.html] >> [/showif] >> [search >> db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eq >> passdatarq=[password]] >> [showif [numFound]=0] >> [redirect page1.html] >> [/showif] >> [/search] >> [redirect >> http://[encrypt][username]:[password][/encrypt]@www.mysite.com/login2.html] >> >> page #3: logon2.html >> in the header: >> > HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0;URL=http://www.mysite/protected.html> >> the protected page has this in it: >> [showif NotFound=[lookup >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotF >> ound]] >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] >> [/showif] >> [showif [password]![lookup >> db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotF >> ound]] >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] >> [/showif] >> [search >> db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eq >> passdatarq=[password]] >> [showif [numFound]=0] >> [authenticate Unauthorized User] >> [/showif] >> [/search] >> >> so when i put real username and passwrd in page1.html i reach login2.html >> and then the ugly dialog box shows up. >> it never shows me the protected.html. >> if i enter the password and username again there everything is ok >> >> any comment will be helpful. >> thanks. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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