Re: The Form authentication trick
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texte = thanks Johnok yes to both sections: it pops the ugly window every time now. i restarted the NN (and i'm on mac too ) it doesn't let me in at all. if enter i wrong password and username it brings me back to the page1.html, but when i enter real ones i do get to the logon2.html and then the protected.html pops up the window. same like last nite. any ideas?thanks On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, John Butler wrote:> Kalin, > > yes for the purposes of this 'trick', [authenticate] works as well. > > when you say it worked the first time and after that.... do you mean that when using NN, you can't > *change* NN's cached username/password values from one set to another? > If so then yes, this does seem to be the biggest drawback (but no worse than using the standard > ugly-dialog method). Brice said he is getting around that by having the user 'logout' which > actually goes to another page protected to another group (or authenticated to another group). > What does he mean? I am not sure. He said- > > The solution are: > - quit your browser session before switching personality [or] > - use logout button that send the user to a page protected > (on the same domain) to another group, which 'reset' his > username/password settings. Then Login again. > > I think he means have the user go to a page which will show the [protect] or [authenticate] if > username/password are not *blank* (null values)... which resets the username/password values in NN > cache back to as if fresh from launch (after the user enters *nothing* in the ugly dialogue box and > proceeds). If not that, then I do not understand what he means, and would love to hear a more > elaborate explanation. It would be nice if Brice would jump in to explain... > > > Or when you said it worked the first time and after that.... did you mean that even if you *quit* > NN and relaunch then it will not let you in even once? If so, then that is truely baffling. If so, > then what it is that you and Ken have in common that Brice and I don't? > > I use the following (which *always* works to login after quitting and relaunching NN): > browser=G3 MacOS 9.04, NN 4.7 > server = Linux/intel , Webcat 3.08 > > -John > > Kalin Mintchev wrote: > > > hi Brice: > > > > 4) on protected.tpl (and others pages) > > use the usual [protect groupname] tag > > > > this says [protect groupname]. can this work with [authenticate] too? > > i saw and tryed the demo it works for me. > > the thing is i'm trying it (the idea you posted in The Form > > authentication trick) with the [authenticate] tag and i get the same > > results described by Kenneth Grome. it worked the first time and after > > that.... > > it seems everything works fine untill the browser gets to that login2.tpl > > is there something else i'm missing?. > > this is what i do: > > page #1: > > form with input names password and username, action=logon1.html. > > page #2: logon1.html > > [showif NotFound=[lookup > > db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotFound]] > > [redirect page1.html] > > [/showif] > > [showif [password]![lookup > > db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotFound]] > > [redirect page1.html] > > [/showif] > > [search > > db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eqpassdatarq=[password]] > > [showif [numFound]=0] > > [redirect page1.html] > > [/showif] > > [/search] > > [redirect > > http://[encrypt][username]:[password][/encrypt]@www.mysite.com/login2.html] > > > > page #3: logon2.html > > in the header: > >
> HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0;URL=http://www.mysite/protected.html> > > the protected page has this in it: > > [showif NotFound=[lookup > > db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotFound]] > > [authenticate Unauthorized User] > > [/showif] > > [showif [password]![lookup > > db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotFound]] > > [authenticate Unauthorized User] > > [/showif] > > [search > > db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eqpassdatarq=[password]] > > [showif [numFound]=0] > > [authenticate Unauthorized User] > > [/showif] > > [/search] > > > > so when i put real username and passwrd in page1.html i reach login2.html > > and then the ugly dialog box shows up. > > it never shows me the protected.html. > > if i enter the password and username again there everything is ok > > > > any comment will be helpful. > > thanks. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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thanks Johnok yes to both sections: it pops the ugly window every time now. i restarted the NN (and i'm on mac too ) it doesn't let me in at all. if enter i wrong password and username it brings me back to the page1.html, but when i enter real ones i do get to the logon2.html and then the protected.html pops up the window. same like last nite. any ideas?thanks On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, John Butler wrote:> Kalin, > > yes for the purposes of this 'trick', [authenticate] works as well. > > when you say it worked the first time and after that.... do you mean that when using NN, you can't > *change* NN's cached username/password values from one set to another? > If so then yes, this does seem to be the biggest drawback (but no worse than using the standard > ugly-dialog method). Brice said he is getting around that by having the user 'logout' which > actually goes to another page protected to another group (or authenticated to another group). > What does he mean? I am not sure. He said- > > The solution are: > - quit your browser session before switching personality [or] > - use logout button that send the user to a page protected > (on the same domain) to another group, which 'reset' his > username/password settings. Then Login again. > > I think he means have the user go to a page which will show the [protect] or [authenticate] if > username/password are not *blank* (null values)... which resets the username/password values in NN > cache back to as if fresh from launch (after the user enters *nothing* in the ugly dialogue box and > proceeds). If not that, then I do not understand what he means, and would love to hear a more > elaborate explanation. It would be nice if Brice would jump in to explain... > > > Or when you said it worked the first time and after that.... did you mean that even if you *quit* > NN and relaunch then it will not let you in even once? If so, then that is truely baffling. If so, > then what it is that you and Ken have in common that Brice and I don't? > > I use the following (which *always* works to login after quitting and relaunching NN): > browser=G3 MacOS 9.04, NN 4.7 > server = Linux/intel , Webcat 3.08 > > -John > > Kalin Mintchev wrote: > > > hi Brice: > > > > 4) on protected.tpl (and others pages) > > use the usual [protect groupname] tag > > > > this says [protect groupname]. can this work with [authenticate] too? > > i saw and tryed the demo it works for me. > > the thing is i'm trying it (the idea you posted in The Form > > authentication trick) with the [authenticate] tag and i get the same > > results described by Kenneth Grome. it worked the first time and after > > that.... > > it seems everything works fine untill the browser gets to that login2.tpl > > is there something else i'm missing?. > > this is what i do: > > page #1: > > form with input names password and username, action=logon1.html. > > page #2: logon1.html > > [showif NotFound=[lookup > > db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotFound]] > > [redirect page1.html] > > [/showif] > > [showif [password]![lookup > > db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotFound]] > > [redirect page1.html] > > [/showif] > > [search > > db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eqpassdatarq=[password]] > > [showif [numFound]=0] > > [redirect page1.html] > > [/showif] > > [/search] > > [redirect > > http://[encrypt][username]:[password][/encrypt]@www.mysite.com/login2.html] > > > > page #3: logon2.html > > in the header: > > > HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0;URL=http://www.mysite/protected.html> > > the protected page has this in it: > > [showif NotFound=[lookup > > db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=user¬Found=NotFound]] > > [authenticate Unauthorized User] > > [/showif] > > [showif [password]![lookup > > db=/db/db.db&lookinField=user&value=[username]&returnField=pass¬Found=NotFound]] > > [authenticate Unauthorized User] > > [/showif] > > [search > > db=/db/db.db&groupsword=ww&wogroupsdatarq=[groups]&equserdatarq=[username]&eqpassdatarq=[password]] > > [showif [numFound]=0] > > [authenticate Unauthorized User] > > [/showif] > > [/search] > > > > so when i put real username and passwrd in page1.html i reach login2.html > > and then the ugly dialog box shows up. > > it never shows me the protected.html. > > if i enter the password and username again there everything is ok > > > > any comment will be helpful. > > thanks. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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