Re: Who owns the code?
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texte = Mine gets involved when you are talking about social interactions between 2 people, usually but not limited to, of different sexes.>There could be a problem here.... if your copyrighted code is describing a >calendar event, then you're OK. If however, that describes a dried fruit, >then you'll hear from my lawyer.... >-- >Tim Robinson >IDFK Web Developments >tim@idfk.com.au > > >> From: Dan Strong
>> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) >> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:31:21 >> To: (WebCatalog Talk) >> Subject: Re: Who owns the code? >> >> [date] >> >> ^^^^^^ >> >> Above code (c) 2002 Strong Graphic Design (R). ALL RIGHTS >> RESERVED. Please make all royalty checks out to SGD. Thank >> you. >> >> -Dan >> >> >> On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:28:06 >> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>> Cute comparison, but not quite the same of course ... :) >>> >>> Intelligent webdna programmers always use snippets of >>> their previous code in new projects. Sometimes they >>> begin with the entire code base of a previous project, >>> then they modify it to fit a new project. To do this >>> legally with code you have already sold to someone else >>> requires a license to re-use that code -- and to retain >>> the ownership of any modifications or derivatives of that >>> code. >>> >>> Of course it can be done the other way as well, simply by >>> retaining ownership yourself, then giving the customer >>> the license to use it on one or more web sites. But most >>> customers expect to own the code since they are the ones >>> paying for it, thus my reason for selling the ownership >>> and retaining a license to re-use it in future projects. >>> >>> It seems like the last thing any webdna consultant would >>> ever want to do is to sell the rights to the code they >>> write for a customer without retaining the right to >>> re-use that code. Given the fact that the same snippets >>> of code can be modified for use in many future sites, why >>> would you cut your own throat by giving away your right >>> to re-use any code you have written? >>> >>> Anyways, this whole issue is one of those things that is >>> doubtful to ever bother you unless you create a great >>> site and then go out and try to sell it to the >>> competitors of your original customer -- which would >>> obviously be a very unethical thing to do -- but I have >>> heard of people doing just that. >>> >>> If you give encrypted copies of your templates to your >>> clients to be used on their web servers, then no one will >>> ever actually see the code you have written, even if they >>> manage to download the templates via FTP or copy them via > >> some other method, because they are encrypted. > >> > >> Only the 'big' clients ever ask about this issue anyways, > >> or at least that has been my experience. The rest seem > >> more concerned about getting their sites up and running >>> ASAP ... :) >>> >>> >>> >>>> Same sort of thing happened to me last week. >>>> >>>> I went into the local BMW Dealer and asked the rep about >>>> the price of an M3 >>>> - guy said he could do me a good deal as long as he and >>>> any of his mates >>>> could take it out for a spin whenever he felt like it. >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> On 7/8/02 3:13 PM, Kenneth Grome >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Ken, >>>>>> Who owns your clone's code? >>>>> >>>>> The owner of the code is the person who contracts with >>>>> me -- with the >>>>> provision that the owner gives me an unlimited license >>>>> to re-use all >>>>> or part of that code in the web sites I develop in the >>>>> future. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>>>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>>>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>>>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>>> to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Andrew Simpson >>>> Web Development >>>> >>>> Blackpepper Interactive Ltd >>>> PO Box 99805 >>>> Newmarket >>>> >>>> 4 Clayton Street >>>> Newmarket >>>> Auckland >>>> >>>> Ph: +64 9 520-6281 >>>> Mob: 0272733270 >>>> Fax: +64 9 524-1849 >>>> >>>> http://www.blackpepper.co.nz >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >> (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Mine gets involved when you are talking about social interactions between 2 people, usually but not limited to, of different sexes.>There could be a problem here.... if your copyrighted code is describing a >calendar event, then you're OK. If however, that describes a dried fruit, >then you'll hear from my lawyer.... >-- >Tim Robinson >IDFK Web Developments >tim@idfk.com.au > > >> From: Dan Strong >> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) >> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:31:21 >> To: (WebCatalog Talk) >> Subject: Re: Who owns the code? >> >> [date] >> >> ^^^^^^ >> >> Above code (c) 2002 Strong Graphic Design (R). ALL RIGHTS >> RESERVED. Please make all royalty checks out to SGD. Thank >> you. >> >> -Dan >> >> >> On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:28:06 >> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>> Cute comparison, but not quite the same of course ... :) >>> >>> Intelligent webdna programmers always use snippets of >>> their previous code in new projects. Sometimes they >>> begin with the entire code base of a previous project, >>> then they modify it to fit a new project. To do this >>> legally with code you have already sold to someone else >>> requires a license to re-use that code -- and to retain >>> the ownership of any modifications or derivatives of that >>> code. >>> >>> Of course it can be done the other way as well, simply by >>> retaining ownership yourself, then giving the customer >>> the license to use it on one or more web sites. But most >>> customers expect to own the code since they are the ones >>> paying for it, thus my reason for selling the ownership >>> and retaining a license to re-use it in future projects. >>> >>> It seems like the last thing any webdna consultant would >>> ever want to do is to sell the rights to the code they >>> write for a customer without retaining the right to >>> re-use that code. Given the fact that the same snippets >>> of code can be modified for use in many future sites, why >>> would you cut your own throat by giving away your right >>> to re-use any code you have written? >>> >>> Anyways, this whole issue is one of those things that is >>> doubtful to ever bother you unless you create a great >>> site and then go out and try to sell it to the >>> competitors of your original customer -- which would >>> obviously be a very unethical thing to do -- but I have >>> heard of people doing just that. >>> >>> If you give encrypted copies of your templates to your >>> clients to be used on their web servers, then no one will >>> ever actually see the code you have written, even if they >>> manage to download the templates via FTP or copy them via > >> some other method, because they are encrypted. > >> > >> Only the 'big' clients ever ask about this issue anyways, > >> or at least that has been my experience. The rest seem > >> more concerned about getting their sites up and running >>> ASAP ... :) >>> >>> >>> >>>> Same sort of thing happened to me last week. >>>> >>>> I went into the local BMW Dealer and asked the rep about >>>> the price of an M3 >>>> - guy said he could do me a good deal as long as he and >>>> any of his mates >>>> could take it out for a spin whenever he felt like it. >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> On 7/8/02 3:13 PM, Kenneth Grome >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Ken, >>>>>> Who owns your clone's code? >>>>> >>>>> The owner of the code is the person who contracts with >>>>> me -- with the >>>>> provision that the owner gives me an unlimited license >>>>> to re-use all >>>>> or part of that code in the web sites I develop in the >>>>> future. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>>>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>>>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>>>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>>> to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Andrew Simpson >>>> Web Development >>>> >>>> Blackpepper Interactive Ltd >>>> PO Box 99805 >>>> Newmarket >>>> >>>> 4 Clayton Street >>>> Newmarket >>>> Auckland >>>> >>>> Ph: +64 9 520-6281 >>>> Mob: 0272733270 >>>> Fax: +64 9 524-1849 >>>> >>>> http://www.blackpepper.co.nz >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >> (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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