Re: Who owns the code?
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Hmm, I didn't think of that, I'd better re-write it... ;) On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:53:49 Clayton Randall
wrote: >Mine gets involved when you are talking about social >interactions between 2 people, usually but not limited >to, of different sexes. > >>There could be a problem here.... if your copyrighted >>code is describing a >>calendar event, then you're OK. If however, that >>describes a dried fruit, >>then you'll hear from my lawyer.... >>-- >>Tim Robinson >>IDFK Web Developments >>tim@idfk.com.au >> >> >>> From: Dan Strong >>> Reply-To: (WebCatalog >>>Talk) >>> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:31:21 >>> To: (WebCatalog Talk) >>> Subject: Re: Who owns the code? >>> >>> [date] >>> >>> ^^^^^^ >>> >>> Above code (c) 2002 Strong Graphic Design (R). ALL >>>RIGHTS >>> RESERVED. Please make all royalty checks out to SGD. >>>Thank >>> you. >>> >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:28:06 >>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>> Cute comparison, but not quite the same of course ... :) >>>> >>>> Intelligent webdna programmers always use snippets of >>>> their previous code in new projects. Sometimes they >>>> begin with the entire code base of a previous project, >>>> then they modify it to fit a new project. To do this >>>> legally with code you have already sold to someone else >>>> requires a license to re-use that code -- and to retain >>>> the ownership of any modifications or derivatives of >>>>that >>>> code. >>>> >>>> Of course it can be done the other way as well, simply >>>>by >>>> retaining ownership yourself, then giving the customer >>>> the license to use it on one or more web sites. But >>>>most >>>> customers expect to own the code since they are the ones >>>> paying for it, thus my reason for selling the ownership >>>> and retaining a license to re-use it in future projects. >>>> >>>> It seems like the last thing any webdna consultant would >>>> ever want to do is to sell the rights to the code they >>>> write for a customer without retaining the right to >>>> re-use that code. Given the fact that the same snippets >>>> of code can be modified for use in many future sites, >>>>why >>>> would you cut your own throat by giving away your right >>>> to re-use any code you have written? >>>> >>>> Anyways, this whole issue is one of those things that is >>>> doubtful to ever bother you unless you create a great >>>> site and then go out and try to sell it to the >>>> competitors of your original customer -- which would >>>> obviously be a very unethical thing to do -- but I have >>>> heard of people doing just that. >>>> >>>> If you give encrypted copies of your templates to your >>>> clients to be used on their web servers, then no one >>>>will >>>> ever actually see the code you have written, even if >>>>they >>>> manage to download the templates via FTP or copy them >>>>via >> >> some other method, because they are encrypted. >> >> >> >> Only the 'big' clients ever ask about this issue >>anyways, >> >> or at least that has been my experience. The rest >>seem >> >> more concerned about getting their sites up and >>running >>>> ASAP ... :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Same sort of thing happened to me last week. >>>>> >>>>> I went into the local BMW Dealer and asked the rep about >>>>> the price of an M3 >>>>> - guy said he could do me a good deal as long as he and >>>>> any of his mates >>>>> could take it out for a spin whenever he felt like it. >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> On 7/8/02 3:13 PM, Kenneth Grome >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Ken, >>>>>>> Who owns your clone's code? >>>>>> >>>>>> The owner of the code is the person who contracts with >>>>>> me -- with the >>>>>> provision that the owner gives me an unlimited license >>>>>> to re-use all >>>>>> or part of that code in the web sites I develop in the >>>>>> future. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>>>>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>>>>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>>>>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>>>> to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Andrew Simpson >>>>> Web Development >>>>> >>>>> Blackpepper Interactive Ltd >>>>> PO Box 99805 >>>>> Newmarket >>>>> >>>>> 4 Clayton Street >>>>> Newmarket >>>>> Auckland >>>>> >>>>> Ph: +64 9 520-6281 >>>>> Mob: 0272733270 >>>>> Fax: +64 9 524-1849 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.blackpepper.co.nz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>>>to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>>to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >>> (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: >>http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: >http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------- http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Hmm, I didn't think of that, I'd better re-write it... ;) On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:53:49 Clayton Randall wrote: >Mine gets involved when you are talking about social >interactions between 2 people, usually but not limited >to, of different sexes. > >>There could be a problem here.... if your copyrighted >>code is describing a >>calendar event, then you're OK. If however, that >>describes a dried fruit, >>then you'll hear from my lawyer.... >>-- >>Tim Robinson >>IDFK Web Developments >>tim@idfk.com.au >> >> >>> From: Dan Strong >>> Reply-To: (WebCatalog >>>Talk) >>> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 21:31:21 >>> To: (WebCatalog Talk) >>> Subject: Re: Who owns the code? >>> >>> [date] >>> >>> ^^^^^^ >>> >>> Above code (c) 2002 Strong Graphic Design (R). ALL >>>RIGHTS >>> RESERVED. Please make all royalty checks out to SGD. >>>Thank >>> you. >>> >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:28:06 >>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>> Cute comparison, but not quite the same of course ... :) >>>> >>>> Intelligent webdna programmers always use snippets of >>>> their previous code in new projects. Sometimes they >>>> begin with the entire code base of a previous project, >>>> then they modify it to fit a new project. To do this >>>> legally with code you have already sold to someone else >>>> requires a license to re-use that code -- and to retain >>>> the ownership of any modifications or derivatives of >>>>that >>>> code. >>>> >>>> Of course it can be done the other way as well, simply >>>>by >>>> retaining ownership yourself, then giving the customer >>>> the license to use it on one or more web sites. But >>>>most >>>> customers expect to own the code since they are the ones >>>> paying for it, thus my reason for selling the ownership >>>> and retaining a license to re-use it in future projects. >>>> >>>> It seems like the last thing any webdna consultant would >>>> ever want to do is to sell the rights to the code they >>>> write for a customer without retaining the right to >>>> re-use that code. Given the fact that the same snippets >>>> of code can be modified for use in many future sites, >>>>why >>>> would you cut your own throat by giving away your right >>>> to re-use any code you have written? >>>> >>>> Anyways, this whole issue is one of those things that is >>>> doubtful to ever bother you unless you create a great >>>> site and then go out and try to sell it to the >>>> competitors of your original customer -- which would >>>> obviously be a very unethical thing to do -- but I have >>>> heard of people doing just that. >>>> >>>> If you give encrypted copies of your templates to your >>>> clients to be used on their web servers, then no one >>>>will >>>> ever actually see the code you have written, even if >>>>they >>>> manage to download the templates via FTP or copy them >>>>via >> >> some other method, because they are encrypted. >> >> >> >> Only the 'big' clients ever ask about this issue >>anyways, >> >> or at least that has been my experience. The rest >>seem >> >> more concerned about getting their sites up and >>running >>>> ASAP ... :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Same sort of thing happened to me last week. >>>>> >>>>> I went into the local BMW Dealer and asked the rep about >>>>> the price of an M3 >>>>> - guy said he could do me a good deal as long as he and >>>>> any of his mates >>>>> could take it out for a spin whenever he felt like it. >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> On 7/8/02 3:13 PM, Kenneth Grome >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Ken, >>>>>>> Who owns your clone's code? >>>>>> >>>>>> The owner of the code is the person who contracts with >>>>>> me -- with the >>>>>> provision that the owner gives me an unlimited license >>>>>> to re-use all >>>>>> or part of that code in the web sites I develop in the >>>>>> future. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>>>>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>>>>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>>>>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>>>> to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Andrew Simpson >>>>> Web Development >>>>> >>>>> Blackpepper Interactive Ltd >>>>> PO Box 99805 >>>>> Newmarket >>>>> >>>>> 4 Clayton Street >>>>> Newmarket >>>>> Auckland >>>>> >>>>> Ph: +64 9 520-6281 >>>>> Mob: 0272733270 >>>>> Fax: +64 9 524-1849 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.blackpepper.co.nz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>>>to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>>to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >>> (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: >>http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: >http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------- http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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