Re: Sending emails (went[ot] )

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2002


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 46318
interpreted = N
texte = We sort of do this but don't really worry about the file IO .. We customise a link in every email that is an unsubscribe so need to generate one email per person. > On 12/16/02 5:03 AM, Andrew Simpson > wrote: > >> If he was a serious spammer he wouldn't do this - fastest we have sent >> emails using webcat is about 3 a second. > > Here is a logic that we will be implementing. I have heard the debate a > thousand times on how webcat does not work well as a list manager and that > listserve software is the way to go. However, when much of your data (if not > all) including subscription services is managed in Webcat, there is a > tremendous value in being able to apply dynamic search criteria to a list of > members and have 'bulk style' email handled by webcat. > > > With that here is a concept that reduces the file IO significantly and still > works decent sized lists. > > In english (no code) > > Search on criteria. > Establish List of emails to send to. > Store sku's for email in EMAILvar. > > Then: > > Set templistvar = > Listwords for EMAILVAR > set templistvar = word,templistvar > showif index\100 > Sendmail to templistvar using BCC for templistvar placement > insert copy > /sendmail > set templistvar = > /showif > /listwords > > > Essentially if the email your sending is in true bulk mail style (all the > copy is the same) you can use this method. Whats nice about it is that you > can use the showif index\100 to reduce the amount of file IO needed to send > the mail. That 100 number can be adjusted up or down depending on your > average list size, or how picky your mail server is. I think someone said > they had used this method with a number up to 250. > > If you could use 250 that's 4 email files per thousand emails. Only 40 per > 10,000. > > Now again, this system still ends up in file IO trouble with huge numbers > (over 100,000 would be my guess), but for most of us managing lists of > people below that number it should work quite well. > > For our clients, its the ability to use search criteria to build their list > based on the relevance of the current email. Not only is that a huge plus > for them, but by its very nature it means more qualified results and > actually cuts down on the amount of email actually being sent. (EX> This > email goes to 3000 users because I can break it down instead of the 10,000 > it might have gone to if I just needed to send to everyone to make sure the > right people got it). > > > I cant remember who else said they were suing this. Monday brain. > > HTH > > Alex > > > > > Alex J McCombie New World Media > Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 > 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 > Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com > > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Sending emails (went[ot] ) (Alain Russell 2002)
  2. Re: Sending emails (went[ot] ) (Alex McCombie 2002)
  3. Re: Sending emails (went[ot] ) (Alex McCombie 2002)
  4. Re: Sending emails (went[ot] ) (Andrew Simpson 2002)
  5. Re: Sending emails (went[ot] ) (Alain Russell 2002)
  6. Re: Sending emails (went[ot] ) (Rene van der Velde 2002)
We sort of do this but don't really worry about the file IO .. We customise a link in every email that is an unsubscribe so need to generate one email per person. > On 12/16/02 5:03 AM, Andrew Simpson > wrote: > >> If he was a serious spammer he wouldn't do this - fastest we have sent >> emails using webcat is about 3 a second. > > Here is a logic that we will be implementing. I have heard the debate a > thousand times on how webcat does not work well as a list manager and that > listserve software is the way to go. However, when much of your data (if not > all) including subscription services is managed in Webcat, there is a > tremendous value in being able to apply dynamic search criteria to a list of > members and have 'bulk style' email handled by webcat. > > > With that here is a concept that reduces the file IO significantly and still > works decent sized lists. > > In english (no code) > > Search on criteria. > Establish List of emails to send to. > Store sku's for email in EMAILvar. > > Then: > > Set templistvar = > Listwords for EMAILVAR > set templistvar = word,templistvar > showif index\100 > Sendmail to templistvar using BCC for templistvar placement > insert copy > /sendmail > set templistvar = > /showif > /listwords > > > Essentially if the email your sending is in true bulk mail style (all the > copy is the same) you can use this method. Whats nice about it is that you > can use the showif index\100 to reduce the amount of file IO needed to send > the mail. That 100 number can be adjusted up or down depending on your > average list size, or how picky your mail server is. I think someone said > they had used this method with a number up to 250. > > If you could use 250 that's 4 email files per thousand emails. Only 40 per > 10,000. > > Now again, this system still ends up in file IO trouble with huge numbers > (over 100,000 would be my guess), but for most of us managing lists of > people below that number it should work quite well. > > For our clients, its the ability to use search criteria to build their list > based on the relevance of the current email. Not only is that a huge plus > for them, but by its very nature it means more qualified results and > actually cuts down on the amount of email actually being sent. (EX> This > email goes to 3000 users because I can break it down instead of the 10,000 > it might have gone to if I just needed to send to everyone to make sure the > right people got it). > > > I cant remember who else said they were suing this. Monday brain. > > HTH > > Alex > > > > > Alex J McCombie New World Media > Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 > 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 > Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com > > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Alain Russell

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