Re: Sending emails (went[ot] )
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2002
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 46318
interpreted = N
texte = We sort of do this but don't really worry about the file IO .. We customisea link in every email that is an unsubscribe so need to generate one emailper person.> On 12/16/02 5:03 AM, Andrew Simpson
> wrote:> >> If he was a serious spammer he wouldn't do this - fastest we have sent>> emails using webcat is about 3 a second.> > Here is a logic that we will be implementing. I have heard the debate a> thousand times on how webcat does not work well as a list manager and that> listserve software is the way to go. However, when much of your data (if not> all) including subscription services is managed in Webcat, there is a> tremendous value in being able to apply dynamic search criteria to a list of> members and have 'bulk style' email handled by webcat.> > > With that here is a concept that reduces the file IO significantly and still> works decent sized lists.> > In english (no code)> > Search on criteria.> Establish List of emails to send to.> Store sku's for email in EMAILvar.> > Then:> > Set templistvar = > Listwords for EMAILVAR> set templistvar = word,templistvar> showif index\100> Sendmail to templistvar using BCC for templistvar placement> insert copy> /sendmail> set templistvar = > /showif> /listwords> > > Essentially if the email your sending is in true bulk mail style (all the> copy is the same) you can use this method. Whats nice about it is that you> can use the showif index\100 to reduce the amount of file IO needed to send> the mail. That 100 number can be adjusted up or down depending on your> average list size, or how picky your mail server is. I think someone said> they had used this method with a number up to 250.> > If you could use 250 that's 4 email files per thousand emails. Only 40 per> 10,000. > > Now again, this system still ends up in file IO trouble with huge numbers> (over 100,000 would be my guess), but for most of us managing lists of> people below that number it should work quite well.> > For our clients, its the ability to use search criteria to build their list> based on the relevance of the current email. Not only is that a huge plus> for them, but by its very nature it means more qualified results and> actually cuts down on the amount of email actually being sent. (EX> This> email goes to 3000 users because I can break it down instead of the 10,000> it might have gone to if I just needed to send to everyone to make sure the> right people got it).> > > I cant remember who else said they were suing this. Monday brain.> > HTH> > Alex> > > > > Alex J McCombie New World Media> Chief Information Officer Drawer 607> 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064> Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com> > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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We sort of do this but don't really worry about the file IO .. We customisea link in every email that is an unsubscribe so need to generate one emailper person.> On 12/16/02 5:03 AM, Andrew Simpson > wrote:> >> If he was a serious spammer he wouldn't do this - fastest we have sent>> emails using webcat is about 3 a second.> > Here is a logic that we will be implementing. I have heard the debate a> thousand times on how webcat does not work well as a list manager and that> listserve software is the way to go. However, when much of your data (if not> all) including subscription services is managed in Webcat, there is a> tremendous value in being able to apply dynamic search criteria to a list of> members and have 'bulk style' email handled by webcat.> > > With that here is a concept that reduces the file IO significantly and still> works decent sized lists.> > In english (no code)> > Search on criteria.> Establish List of emails to send to.> Store sku's for email in EMAILvar.> > Then:> > Set templistvar = > Listwords for EMAILVAR> set templistvar = word,templistvar> showif index\100> Sendmail to templistvar using BCC for templistvar placement> insert copy> /sendmail> set templistvar = > /showif> /listwords> > > Essentially if the email your sending is in true bulk mail style (all the> copy is the same) you can use this method. Whats nice about it is that you> can use the showif index\100 to reduce the amount of file IO needed to send> the mail. That 100 number can be adjusted up or down depending on your> average list size, or how picky your mail server is. I think someone said> they had used this method with a number up to 250.> > If you could use 250 that's 4 email files per thousand emails. Only 40 per> 10,000. > > Now again, this system still ends up in file IO trouble with huge numbers> (over 100,000 would be my guess), but for most of us managing lists of> people below that number it should work quite well.> > For our clients, its the ability to use search criteria to build their list> based on the relevance of the current email. Not only is that a huge plus> for them, but by its very nature it means more qualified results and> actually cuts down on the amount of email actually being sent. (EX> This> email goes to 3000 users because I can break it down instead of the 10,000> it might have gone to if I just needed to send to everyone to make sure the> right people got it).> > > I cant remember who else said they were suing this. Monday brain.> > HTH> > Alex> > > > > Alex J McCombie New World Media> Chief Information Officer Drawer 607> 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064> Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com> > Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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