Re: Sending emails (went[ot] )
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texte = On 12/16/02 5:03 AM, Andrew Simpson
wrote:> If he was a serious spammer he wouldn't do this - fastest we have sent > emails using webcat is about 3 a second.Here is a logic that we will be implementing. I have heard the debate a thousand times on how webcat does not work well as a list manager and that listserve software is the way to go. However, when much of your data (if not all) including subscription services is managed in Webcat, there is a tremendous value in being able to apply dynamic search criteria to a list of members and have 'bulk style' email handled by webcat. With that here is a concept that reduces the file IO significantly and still works decent sized lists.In english (no code)Search on criteria. Establish List of emails to send to. Store sku's for email in EMAILvar.Then:Set templistvar = Listwords for EMAILVAR set templistvar = word,templistvar showif index\100 Sendmail to templistvar using BCC for templistvar placement insert copy /sendmail set templistvar = /showif /listwords Essentially if the email your sending is in true bulk mail style (all the copy is the same) you can use this method. Whats nice about it is that you can use the showif index\100 to reduce the amount of file IO needed to send the mail. That 100 number can be adjusted up or down depending on your average list size, or how picky your mail server is. I think someone said they had used this method with a number up to 250.If you could use 250 that's 4 email files per thousand emails. Only 40 per 10,000. Now again, this system still ends up in file IO trouble with huge numbers (over 100,000 would be my guess), but for most of us managing lists of people below that number it should work quite well.For our clients, its the ability to use search criteria to build their list based on the relevance of the current email. Not only is that a huge plus for them, but by its very nature it means more qualified results and actually cuts down on the amount of email actually being sent. (EX> This email goes to 3000 users because I can break it down instead of the 10,000 it might have gone to if I just needed to send to everyone to make sure the right people got it). I cant remember who else said they were suing this. Monday brain.HTHAlex Alex J McCombie New World Media Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.comInterface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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On 12/16/02 5:03 AM, Andrew Simpson wrote:> If he was a serious spammer he wouldn't do this - fastest we have sent > emails using webcat is about 3 a second.Here is a logic that we will be implementing. I have heard the debate a thousand times on how webcat does not work well as a list manager and that listserve software is the way to go. However, when much of your data (if not all) including subscription services is managed in Webcat, there is a tremendous value in being able to apply dynamic search criteria to a list of members and have 'bulk style' email handled by webcat. With that here is a concept that reduces the file IO significantly and still works decent sized lists.In english (no code)Search on criteria. Establish List of emails to send to. Store sku's for email in EMAILvar.Then:Set templistvar = Listwords for EMAILVAR set templistvar = word,templistvar showif index\100 Sendmail to templistvar using BCC for templistvar placement insert copy /sendmail set templistvar = /showif /listwords Essentially if the email your sending is in true bulk mail style (all the copy is the same) you can use this method. Whats nice about it is that you can use the showif index\100 to reduce the amount of file IO needed to send the mail. That 100 number can be adjusted up or down depending on your average list size, or how picky your mail server is. I think someone said they had used this method with a number up to 250.If you could use 250 that's 4 email files per thousand emails. Only 40 per 10,000. Now again, this system still ends up in file IO trouble with huge numbers (over 100,000 would be my guess), but for most of us managing lists of people below that number it should work quite well.For our clients, its the ability to use search criteria to build their list based on the relevance of the current email. Not only is that a huge plus for them, but by its very nature it means more qualified results and actually cuts down on the amount of email actually being sent. (EX> This email goes to 3000 users because I can break it down instead of the 10,000 it might have gone to if I just needed to send to everyone to make sure the right people got it). I cant remember who else said they were suing this. Monday brain.HTHAlex Alex J McCombie New World Media Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.comInterface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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