Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment

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2003


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 47364
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texte = Opps forgot to add that in in results page I have this:[formvariables][text]name_[name]=[name][/text][/formvariables] [text]var_from=0[/text][showif [name_from]=from][text]var_from=1[/text][/showif]-- Regards, Marko ------------------------------------------------------------------ Marko Bernyk - Senior System Engineer mailto:marko@conexus.com.au  http://www.conexus.com.au Technical Services, Conexus Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia Ph 02 9975 2799 Fax 02 9975 2799          :) ------------------------------------------------------------------On Monday, 3 February 2003 10:37 AM, Marko Bernyk wrote: >Thought I'd let you know. > >Using the [searchstring] tag as part of the [shownext] exposes >your 'code' under Webcat 3.07. >(Dunno if it does the same for versions over 3.07) > >It is not Context Sensitive and you have to rework your links >for [shownext] > >This is what I use: > >Show me Items: [shownext]href=results.tpl?item=[url][item][/url]&from=[start]>[start]-[end] >| [/shownext] > >my result page has a [search]: > >[search >db=database.db&eqFIELDdatarq=[url][item][/url]&FIELDsort=1&FIELDsdir=as&max=20[showif >[var_from]=1]&startat=[from][/showif]] > >Cheers. > >-- >Regards, >Marko >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Marko Bernyk - Senior System Engineer >mailto:marko@conexus.com.au  http://www.conexus.com.au >Technical Services, Conexus Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia >Ph 02 9975 2799 Fax 02 9975 2799          :) >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >On Friday, 31 January 2003 10:26 PM, John Peacock wrote: >>Kenneth Grome wrote: >>> John's almost right, except for two things: >>> >>> 1- The search context requires a startat parameter, not a start >>> parameter. >>> >> >>Yes, sorry, startat, not start. >> >>> 2- The value of the startat parameter must be a variable ... and the >>> value of that variable must be set inside the shownext >>context. >> >>Wrong! I don't know where Ken gets this stuff. The [searchstring] tag includes >>everything you need to continue your search. The startat parameter must be >>present in the original search and then it is available as part of the >>[searchstring] tag. There is no requirement that it be a variable, because >>_all_ form parameters are variables. >> >>> >>> By the way, if you stop messing around with the searchstring tag and >>> instead put all the required variables into your shownext URLs manually, >>> as I have demonstrated above, then you will probably begin to understand >>> what's going on when you click a shownext link. >> >>You'll also spend a lot of time writing non-portable code. [searchstring] does >>everything for you. With Ken's techniques, you cannot have a page be the target >>for multiple search variations and have the [searchstring] automatically do the >>right thing. >> >>> >>> Using the searchstring tag tends to hide important information from you, >>> which only confuses the issue. And as John said in his previous >>> message, the searchstring tag has problems -- which is yet another good >>> reason to avoid using it. >>> >> >>No, the documentation has problems; the [searchstring] works just fine. Ken and >>I differ, here. He got burned by the error in the docs and never recovered his >>confidence in the [shownext]/[searchstring] pair. I figured out why the docs >>were wrong and use [searchstring] every day without fear. >> >>If you care to see just how magical [shownext] is, check out this from our web >>site. The raw WebDNA: >> >>[ShowNext position=begin&method=post&max=1] >>
>>[searchstring] >>>Alt=Previous [max] Border=0> >>
>>[/ShowNext] >> >>The processed page (for a representative search): >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Value=ATITLE+ASUBTTL+ASUBSUBTTL+AAU+AED+RELATED_SERIES> >> >Border=0 ALIGN=Top>>STYLE=font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt; Type=Text BORDER=0> >>
>> >>John >> >>-- >>John Peacock >>Director of Information Research and Technology >>Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group >>4720 Boston Way >>Lanham, MD 20706 >>301-459-3366 x.5010 >>fax 301-429-5747 >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (Marko Bernyk 2003)
  2. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (Marko Bernyk 2003)
  3. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  4. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (Donovan 2003)
  5. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (John Peacock 2003)
  6. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (Donovan 2003)
  7. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (Joe R. Richardson 2003)
  8. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (Joe R. Richardson 2003)
  9. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (John Peacock 2003)
  10. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  11. Re: Help getting [shownext] to increment (John Peacock 2003)
  12. Help getting [shownext] to increment (Joe R. Richardson 2003)
Opps forgot to add that in in results page I have this:[formvariables][text]name_[name]=[name][/text][/formvariables] [text]var_from=0[/text][showif [name_from]=from][text]var_from=1[/text][/showif]-- Regards, Marko ------------------------------------------------------------------ Marko Bernyk - Senior System Engineer mailto:marko@conexus.com.au  http://www.conexus.com.au Technical Services, Conexus Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia Ph 02 9975 2799 Fax 02 9975 2799          :) ------------------------------------------------------------------On Monday, 3 February 2003 10:37 AM, Marko Bernyk wrote: >Thought I'd let you know. > >Using the [searchstring] tag as part of the [shownext] exposes >your 'code' under Webcat 3.07. >(Dunno if it does the same for versions over 3.07) > >It is not Context Sensitive and you have to rework your links >for [shownext] > >This is what I use: > >Show me Items: [shownext]href=results.tpl?item=[url][item][/url]&from=[start]>[start]-[end] >| [/shownext] > >my result page has a [search]: > >[search >db=database.db&eqFIELDdatarq=[url][item][/url]&FIELDsort=1&FIELDsdir=as&max=20[showif >[var_from]=1]&startat=[from][/showif]] > >Cheers. > >-- >Regards, >Marko >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Marko Bernyk - Senior System Engineer >mailto:marko@conexus.com.au  http://www.conexus.com.au >Technical Services, Conexus Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia >Ph 02 9975 2799 Fax 02 9975 2799          :) >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >On Friday, 31 January 2003 10:26 PM, John Peacock wrote: >>Kenneth Grome wrote: >>> John's almost right, except for two things: >>> >>> 1- The search context requires a startat parameter, not a start >>> parameter. >>> >> >>Yes, sorry, startat, not start. >> >>> 2- The value of the startat parameter must be a variable ... and the >>> value of that variable must be set inside the shownext >>context. >> >>Wrong! I don't know where Ken gets this stuff. The [searchstring] tag includes >>everything you need to continue your search. The startat parameter must be >>present in the original search and then it is available as part of the >>[searchstring] tag. There is no requirement that it be a variable, because >>_all_ form parameters are variables. >> >>> >>> By the way, if you stop messing around with the searchstring tag and >>> instead put all the required variables into your shownext URLs manually, >>> as I have demonstrated above, then you will probably begin to understand >>> what's going on when you click a shownext link. >> >>You'll also spend a lot of time writing non-portable code. [searchstring] does >>everything for you. With Ken's techniques, you cannot have a page be the target >>for multiple search variations and have the [searchstring] automatically do the >>right thing. >> >>> >>> Using the searchstring tag tends to hide important information from you, >>> which only confuses the issue. And as John said in his previous >>> message, the searchstring tag has problems -- which is yet another good >>> reason to avoid using it. >>> >> >>No, the documentation has problems; the [searchstring] works just fine. Ken and >>I differ, here. He got burned by the error in the docs and never recovered his >>confidence in the [shownext]/[searchstring] pair. I figured out why the docs >>were wrong and use [searchstring] every day without fear. >> >>If you care to see just how magical [shownext] is, check out this from our web >>site. The raw WebDNA: >> >>[ShowNext position=begin&method=post&max=1] >>
>>[searchstring] >>>Alt=Previous [max] Border=0> >>
>>[/ShowNext] >> >>The processed page (for a representative search): >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Value=ATITLE+ASUBTTL+ASUBSUBTTL+AAU+AED+RELATED_SERIES> >> >Border=0 ALIGN=Top>>STYLE=font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt; Type=Text BORDER=0> >>
>> >>John >> >>-- >>John Peacock >>Director of Information Research and Technology >>Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group >>4720 Boston Way >>Lanham, MD 20706 >>301-459-3366 x.5010 >>fax 301-429-5747 >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Marko Bernyk

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