Re: FREE Stuff ..

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2003


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 47734
interpreted = N
texte = Mozzilla 7 is very nice. messenger in 7 beats 4.7 by a long shot. In 4.7, if one gets to about a 8,000 emails in a folder it becomes very sluggish. Not in mozilla 7. I have several mail folders that contain upwards to 18,000 messages and clicking between them is (for the most part) painless. Mozzilla's browser is nice also. (I like the optional skins you can download).4.7 lacks in specific ways... Most of which is CSS. Its too bad though because it was a lean and mean browser. If you had tried Netscape 6 and was discouraged, I don't blame you. Netscape 6 was a pile. However, 7 saved face. I still use 4.7 when I'm in the preX environment though (as I am right now).Just had to put my .02¢ in. Donovan Dennis J. Bonsall, Jr. wrote:> > just that it seemed > > a bit surprising to see a web professional not using one. Your comment > > ended in a smiley, and mine should have as well, as I was trying to be > > lightly sarcastic. > > The issue of standards based code and graceful degradation do not come > > into play in this situation, though. This site was not so much > > designed to _not_ work in NN4, as it was that is was simply published > > with some code errors. Whenever a page is mostly or entirely blank in > > NN4, I look first at tables. NN4 (and correctly so) does not make > > assumptions about tables that are incorrectly coded. Looking at the > > source on the SmithMicro page, I noticed the table error immediately: > > Actually, I never looked through the code - I do enough of that on sites I > develop. The point still remains that the site was obviously not checked in all > browsers. And, yes, I was being a smart alec. I do have several browsers > installed on my computer, and it just happened that the browser I was currently > running is the one that would not load the page. As for why it seems that I tend > to favor NN 4.x, I have no logical explaination. It crashes constantly, and I run > into sites that I cannot use on it. But, I just don't really care for 6 or 7 - > they are too dog-slow. Since I prefer to use Netscape for mail, I have just hung > onto it until they fix the super slowness of the latest version of NN. But, when I > am running OSX, I tend to favor Explorer - go figure. From a development > perspective, since NN 4.x is so anal when it comes to code, I figure that if it > loads in that browser, it should load in all others (although it rarely looks the > same). > > Dennis > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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Mozzilla 7 is very nice. messenger in 7 beats 4.7 by a long shot. In 4.7, if one gets to about a 8,000 emails in a folder it becomes very sluggish. Not in mozilla 7. I have several mail folders that contain upwards to 18,000 messages and clicking between them is (for the most part) painless. Mozzilla's browser is nice also. (I like the optional skins you can download).4.7 lacks in specific ways... Most of which is CSS. Its too bad though because it was a lean and mean browser. If you had tried Netscape 6 and was discouraged, I don't blame you. Netscape 6 was a pile. However, 7 saved face. I still use 4.7 when I'm in the preX environment though (as I am right now).Just had to put my .02¢ in. Donovan Dennis J. Bonsall, Jr. wrote:> > just that it seemed > > a bit surprising to see a web professional not using one. Your comment > > ended in a smiley, and mine should have as well, as I was trying to be > > lightly sarcastic. > > The issue of standards based code and graceful degradation do not come > > into play in this situation, though. This site was not so much > > designed to _not_ work in NN4, as it was that is was simply published > > with some code errors. Whenever a page is mostly or entirely blank in > > NN4, I look first at tables. NN4 (and correctly so) does not make > > assumptions about tables that are incorrectly coded. Looking at the > > source on the SmithMicro page, I noticed the table error immediately: > > Actually, I never looked through the code - I do enough of that on sites I > develop. The point still remains that the site was obviously not checked in all > browsers. And, yes, I was being a smart alec. I do have several browsers > installed on my computer, and it just happened that the browser I was currently > running is the one that would not load the page. As for why it seems that I tend > to favor NN 4.x, I have no logical explaination. It crashes constantly, and I run > into sites that I cannot use on it. But, I just don't really care for 6 or 7 - > they are too dog-slow. Since I prefer to use Netscape for mail, I have just hung > onto it until they fix the super slowness of the latest version of NN. But, when I > am running OSX, I tend to favor Explorer - go figure. From a development > perspective, since NN 4.x is so anal when it comes to code, I figure that if it > loads in that browser, it should load in all others (although it rarely looks the > same). > > Dennis > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Donovan home EHG

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