Re: Interesting speed comparison ..
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Um, I have this page somewhere that didn't exist but kept looking for a file called 'error.html' which didn't exist either... do recursive 404 loops of death pages count for the contest? ;) -Dan On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:41:25 +1300 "Andrew Simpson"
wrote: >Okay guys, this is getting out of hand. I will put my hand up and volunteer to re-write a chunk >of webdna in php. and while i am absolutely no expert in PhP i think i will make a passable >effort at it. > >so, do any of you guys have a page or two that takes a while to process? lets say, you have a >page that does a mass database update or some serious file system work... or maybe just a page >full of logic that calculates some pretty heavy mathematical stuff... > >anything taking more than 100 or so ticks would be something to look at. > >I'll set it up with PhP and MySQL and try and beat the time. then we can establish if there is >really any major difference between the two or if, in fact, we are just arguing for the sake of >hearing ourselves speak. > >anybody? > > >> >>>Having examined the PHP and WebDNA test code, I made the following changes: >> >>>[snip] >> >>>With those few changes, the test results are much more favorable for WebDNA. >> > >> >>Now I think we need someone to volunteer to "make a few changes" to >> >>the PHP code in an effort to speed up PHP's results. If it's fair >> >>for Scott to do this to make webdna perform faster than the first >> >>results, then it is also fair for an expert PHP programmer to do >> >>some code optimizing in PHP, right? >> > >> >Hmm, I guess I didn't see Scott's changes as "optimizing" but rather >> >trying to compare Apples to Apples. >> >> Maybe that's what he did. >> >> >> >> >>If you're only interested in which software can perform the fastest >> >>in the real world, you might try doing a real world test. >> >>Obviously a test that does things that seldom happen in the real >> >>world is not going to be an accurate comparison because the >> >>'contrived' test procedures will always favor one software over >> >>another. Change the contrived procedures and you've reversed the >> >>test results! >> > >> >Well, the problem with "real world" tests are that you can hardly *see* the >> >difference. >> >> Which means this discussion is really a waste of time, because if a >> visitor in the real world cannot see or feel any difference then why >> should we care which one is faster, right? >> >> -- >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Outsource your WebDNA programming for $18 an hour or less! >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com http://www.SearchBoise.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Um, I have this page somewhere that didn't exist but kept looking for a file called 'error.html' which didn't exist either... do recursive 404 loops of death pages count for the contest? ;) -Dan On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:41:25 +1300 "Andrew Simpson" wrote: >Okay guys, this is getting out of hand. I will put my hand up and volunteer to re-write a chunk >of webdna in php. and while i am absolutely no expert in PhP i think i will make a passable >effort at it. > >so, do any of you guys have a page or two that takes a while to process? lets say, you have a >page that does a mass database update or some serious file system work... or maybe just a page >full of logic that calculates some pretty heavy mathematical stuff... > >anything taking more than 100 or so ticks would be something to look at. > >I'll set it up with PhP and MySQL and try and beat the time. then we can establish if there is >really any major difference between the two or if, in fact, we are just arguing for the sake of >hearing ourselves speak. > >anybody? > > >> >>>Having examined the PHP and WebDNA test code, I made the following changes: >> >>>[snip] >> >>>With those few changes, the test results are much more favorable for WebDNA. >> > >> >>Now I think we need someone to volunteer to "make a few changes" to >> >>the PHP code in an effort to speed up PHP's results. If it's fair >> >>for Scott to do this to make webdna perform faster than the first >> >>results, then it is also fair for an expert PHP programmer to do >> >>some code optimizing in PHP, right? >> > >> >Hmm, I guess I didn't see Scott's changes as "optimizing" but rather >> >trying to compare Apples to Apples. >> >> Maybe that's what he did. >> >> >> >> >>If you're only interested in which software can perform the fastest >> >>in the real world, you might try doing a real world test. >> >>Obviously a test that does things that seldom happen in the real >> >>world is not going to be an accurate comparison because the >> >>'contrived' test procedures will always favor one software over >> >>another. Change the contrived procedures and you've reversed the >> >>test results! >> > >> >Well, the problem with "real world" tests are that you can hardly *see* the >> >difference. >> >> Which means this discussion is really a waste of time, because if a >> visitor in the real world cannot see or feel any difference then why >> should we care which one is faster, right? >> >> -- >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Outsource your WebDNA programming for $18 an hour or less! >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com http://www.SearchBoise.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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