Re: state?

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2004

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texte = No serious functional reason, I just prefer working with sequential numbers as keys for all my databases. It makes is easier to type in a particular record number or range of record numbers when I'm searching, and in databases with many records, the shorter sequential number keys save disk and RAM space - 6 digits vs. 14 digits makes a lot of difference with a hundred thousand records.- brianOn Mar 15, 2004, at 1:33 PM, Kalin Mintchev wrote:>>>>> I usually do this by assigning a session ID to the user (could be a>>> [cart] value, but I usually assign IDs sequentially) and setting a>> reading this again - any reasons for not using [cart] except the> obvious - to track how many users you get with the sequential> sessions?..>> thanks..>>>> session cookie, then storing the variables I want to restore for the>>> next page the user hits into a dynamically generated include file >>> based>>> on the session id, like this:>>>>>> [writefile path/[sessionID]][raw][text>>> multi=T][/raw]var1=[var1]&var2=[var2](etc)[raw][/text][/raw][/>>> writefile]>>>>>> If your variables may contain ampersands or equal signs, you need to>>> mess with some URL/UNURL contexts to get the variables to set >>> properly.>>> You can use multiple text contexts, math contexts, or whatever to get>>> your desired results.>>>>>> When the user hits a page, I check the session cookie and do this:>>>>>> [fileinfo path/[sessionID]][showif [exists]=T][include>>> path/[sessionID]][/showif][/fileinfo]>>>>>> Then, I add triggered cleanup code that will delete old session files>>> on a daily basis to avoid filling the file system. The frequency of >>> the>>> trigger and the age of the session files to delete varies based on >>> how>>> busy the site is.>>>>>> - brian>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2004, at 6:11 PM, Kalin Mintchev wrote:>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, charles kline wrote:>>>>>>>>> I think he means more like, in PHP, ASP, ColdFusion, you can set>>>>> variables with different scope, Session being one of them.>>>>>>>> more like php and jsp sessions. i don't now about asp and cf. they >>>> are>>>> build in system based on cookies that are included within the >>>> packages>>>> to>>>> follow users around and also they expire at certain time so it can >>>> be>>>> used>>>> for user security. also you can register all kinds of variables to >>>> each>>>> user session that belong only to him/her and can be called and used>>>> without querying a db. they expire with the session so you don't >>>> have>>>> to>>>> worry about them either....>>>>>>>> i'm looking for the same thing like that in wc. i know it can be >>>> build>>>> using the cart implementation but was wondering if somebody already >>>> has>>>> something like that done...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Charles>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2004, at 9:39 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi all>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has somebody developed a state maintaining system with webDNA?>>>>>>>>> if yes - how efficient is it? and will the person be willing to>>>>>>>> share>>>>>>>>> the code?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We all know how to identify which cart our buyers are using, >>>>>>>> what>>>>>>>> else are you seeking? What exactly are you referring to as a>>>>>>>> "State>>>>>>>> maintaining system"?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like session. session variables....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Session variables ... hmmm ... do you mean like cookies that are>>>>>> reset>>>>>> each time the same person clicks a link or form button perhaps? >>>>>> What>>>>>> information do you need to store in your session variables? I >>>>>> think>>>>>> you may have to build your own custom solution since everyone has>>>>>> their own idea of what variables they need to store and access for>>>>>> each visitor ...>>>>>> -->>>>>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: state? ( Brian Fries 2004)
Re: state? ( Kalin Mintchev 2004)
Re: state? ( Kalin Mintchev 2004)
Re: state? ( Brian Fries 2004)
Re: state? ( Kalin Mintchev 2004)
Re: state? ( charles kline 2004)
Re: state? ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
Re: state? ( Kalin Mintchev 2004)
Re: state? ( "Brian Boegershausen" 2004)
Re: state? ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
state? ( Kalin Mintchev 2004)

No serious functional reason, I just prefer working with sequential numbers as keys for all my databases. It makes is easier to type in a particular record number or range of record numbers when I'm searching, and in databases with many records, the shorter sequential number keys save disk and RAM space - 6 digits vs. 14 digits makes a lot of difference with a hundred thousand records.- brianOn Mar 15, 2004, at 1:33 PM, Kalin Mintchev wrote:>>>>> I usually do this by assigning a session ID to the user (could be a>>> [cart] value, but I usually assign IDs sequentially) and setting a>> reading this again - any reasons for not using [cart] except the> obvious - to track how many users you get with the sequential> sessions?..>> thanks..>>>> session cookie, then storing the variables I want to restore for the>>> next page the user hits into a dynamically generated include file >>> based>>> on the session id, like this:>>>>>> [writefile path/[sessionID]][raw][text>>> multi=T][/raw]var1=[var1]&var2=[var2](etc)[raw][/text][/raw][/>>> writefile]>>>>>> If your variables may contain ampersands or equal signs, you need to>>> mess with some URL/UNURL contexts to get the variables to set >>> properly.>>> You can use multiple text contexts, math contexts, or whatever to get>>> your desired results.>>>>>> When the user hits a page, I check the session cookie and do this:>>>>>> [fileinfo path/[sessionID]][showif [exists]=T][include>>> path/[sessionID]][/showif][/fileinfo]>>>>>> Then, I add triggered cleanup code that will delete old session files>>> on a daily basis to avoid filling the file system. The frequency of >>> the>>> trigger and the age of the session files to delete varies based on >>> how>>> busy the site is.>>>>>> - brian>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2004, at 6:11 PM, Kalin Mintchev wrote:>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, charles kline wrote:>>>>>>>>> I think he means more like, in PHP, ASP, ColdFusion, you can set>>>>> variables with different scope, Session being one of them.>>>>>>>> more like php and jsp sessions. i don't now about asp and cf. they >>>> are>>>> build in system based on cookies that are included within the >>>> packages>>>> to>>>> follow users around and also they expire at certain time so it can >>>> be>>>> used>>>> for user security. also you can register all kinds of variables to >>>> each>>>> user session that belong only to him/her and can be called and used>>>> without querying a db. they expire with the session so you don't >>>> have>>>> to>>>> worry about them either....>>>>>>>> i'm looking for the same thing like that in wc. i know it can be >>>> build>>>> using the cart implementation but was wondering if somebody already >>>> has>>>> something like that done...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Charles>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2004, at 9:39 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi all>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has somebody developed a state maintaining system with webDNA?>>>>>>>>> if yes - how efficient is it? and will the person be willing to>>>>>>>> share>>>>>>>>> the code?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We all know how to identify which cart our buyers are using, >>>>>>>> what>>>>>>>> else are you seeking? What exactly are you referring to as a>>>>>>>> "State>>>>>>>> maintaining system"?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like session. session variables....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Session variables ... hmmm ... do you mean like cookies that are>>>>>> reset>>>>>> each time the same person clicks a link or form button perhaps? >>>>>> What>>>>>> information do you need to store in your session variables? I >>>>>> think>>>>>> you may have to build your own custom solution since everyone has>>>>>> their own idea of what variables they need to store and access for>>>>>> each visitor ...>>>>>> -->>>>>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Brian Fries

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