Re: Email Spam a bit of Hell
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texte = On 5/17/04 1:48 PM, "Sal"
wrote:> Here is a posting explaining your problem.> > http://www.nettwerked.net/auto-rep-hack.htmlBTW, this is really the problem. There are no loops (thank god) that causethis sort of thing.Its just some (man I wish I could say what I think here) person/companysending countless emails out to people with a large percentage bouncing backto the replyto address (my domain) because of spam filters, invalid deliveryaddresses, full mailboxes, etc.So in this way I don't think this is a DOS tactic... Its just spammersprotecting themselves from the burden of bouncebacks by forging theirreplyto address.Mail server protocols need to be updated to check if the domain name of thereplyto address is in the same net block as the sending mail server. Thatone thing alone would stop terabytes of useless (and often crippling) emailspam traffic on the net daily.I did get a kick out of the advice on that page though:====================== - Refrain from using Email Auto-Responses. LOL... That's like saying avoid eating cookies if you car startspull to the left.====================== - Configure Mail Client Software to respond to any one email address onlyonce. LOL... Another one because anyone that has setup autorepsonders (whichwe wouldn't be crazy enough to use) knows that every subsequent reply is adifferent messageID... It's about as stateless as HTTP.====================== - SMTP servers should be configured to only allow connections from users ofa known IP-Range. The best one yet.... Setup your mail server to only allow incoming mailfrom IP ranges you know in advance. Everyone else should call you on thephone...======================Hehe..Thanks Sal... At least I got a smile today ;-)AlexAlex J McCombie New World MediaChief Information Officer Box 124888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.comInterface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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On 5/17/04 1:48 PM, "Sal" wrote:> Here is a posting explaining your problem.> > http://www.nettwerked.net/auto-rep-hack.htmlBTW, this is really the problem. There are no loops (thank god) that causethis sort of thing.Its just some (man I wish I could say what I think here) person/companysending countless emails out to people with a large percentage bouncing backto the replyto address (my domain) because of spam filters, invalid deliveryaddresses, full mailboxes, etc.So in this way I don't think this is a DOS tactic... Its just spammersprotecting themselves from the burden of bouncebacks by forging theirreplyto address.Mail server protocols need to be updated to check if the domain name of thereplyto address is in the same net block as the sending mail server. Thatone thing alone would stop terabytes of useless (and often crippling) emailspam traffic on the net daily.I did get a kick out of the advice on that page though:====================== - Refrain from using Email Auto-Responses. LOL... That's like saying avoid eating cookies if you car startspull to the left.====================== - Configure Mail Client Software to respond to any one email address onlyonce. LOL... Another one because anyone that has setup autorepsonders (whichwe wouldn't be crazy enough to use) knows that every subsequent reply is adifferent messageID... It's about as stateless as HTTP.====================== - SMTP servers should be configured to only allow connections from users ofa known IP-Range. The best one yet.... Setup your mail server to only allow incoming mailfrom IP ranges you know in advance. Everyone else should call you on thephone...======================Hehe..Thanks Sal... At least I got a smile today ;-)AlexAlex J McCombie New World MediaChief Information Officer Box 124888/892.6379 MartVille, NY 13111Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.comInterface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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