Re: WebDNA - fun to compare
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texte = Christophe Billiottet wrote:> Ken is right. Well... this:"Unfortunately saving development time and money is the only benefit they get from it,and usually this is not enough to convince them. They have to consider potentialhosting problems, potential abandonment of their hard to find and expensive webdnaprogrammer, etc. and sometimes these are more important than saving a few bucks indevelopment."I've experienced no hosting problems. I haven't abandoned any of my customers and theother quality businesses I know haven't abandoned theirs. Are you talking fromexperience Ken? ;-) jk. I also do not think most webdna'ers are expensive, relativeto the market... Just because you made a move to another country and have asystem to market dirt cheap programming, doesn't mean that we are expensivewhen compared to the market standard. I would also venture a guess to say that95% of those numerous PHP programmers are wannabees. I can take a PHP templateand shape it into a custom application, but I don't call myself a PHP programmer,where many would. With webdna, Much of the time, I write code for a customer toa specification basically from the ground up. Along with maybe less cost ofdevelpment for this custom code, my customers are assured that if they have achange in mind (which happens), that I can make it happen quickly. Yep, it comesdown to customer concerns, and I (as many others do) feel we can answer to thoseconcerns best with webdna.Ultimately, I may wish it had a higher market share, was cheaper etc.. butin the end, there is more to the benefits of using WebDNA than meets the eye(so to speak).DonovanIt takes a> couple of hours to learn and you can already build something interesting > or useful with it, and with a couple of days you can build a fully > interactive site. A better licensing policy from SmithMicro, a full free > version with a discreet advert banner, and lower prices, would surely > make it a less confidential product.> > As far as i am concerned, i built very complex administrative systems, > including accounting, invoicing, payrolls etc.... for companies, but i > would not know how to build a simple form-to-mail with php...> > I love WebDNA, its flexibility and its easy-to-learn syntax.> > chris-- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o DONOVAN D. BROOKE Eucalyptus Design <-Web Development (specializing in eCommerce), -> <- Graphic Design, Custom Tags and Labels -> ADDRESS:> Donovan Brooke DBA Eucalyptus Design N2862 Summerville Park Rd. Lodi, WI 53555 PH:> 1.608.592.3567 Web:> http://www.euca.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Christophe Billiottet wrote:> Ken is right. Well... this:"Unfortunately saving development time and money is the only benefit they get from it,and usually this is not enough to convince them. They have to consider potentialhosting problems, potential abandonment of their hard to find and expensive webdnaprogrammer, etc. and sometimes these are more important than saving a few bucks indevelopment."I've experienced no hosting problems. I haven't abandoned any of my customers and theother quality businesses I know haven't abandoned theirs. Are you talking fromexperience Ken? ;-) jk. I also do not think most webdna'ers are expensive, relativeto the market... Just because you made a move to another country and have asystem to market dirt cheap programming, doesn't mean that we are expensivewhen compared to the market standard. I would also venture a guess to say that95% of those numerous PHP programmers are wannabees. I can take a PHP templateand shape it into a custom application, but I don't call myself a PHP programmer,where many would. With webdna, Much of the time, I write code for a customer toa specification basically from the ground up. Along with maybe less cost ofdevelpment for this custom code, my customers are assured that if they have achange in mind (which happens), that I can make it happen quickly. Yep, it comesdown to customer concerns, and I (as many others do) feel we can answer to thoseconcerns best with webdna.Ultimately, I may wish it had a higher market share, was cheaper etc.. butin the end, there is more to the benefits of using WebDNA than meets the eye(so to speak).DonovanIt takes a> couple of hours to learn and you can already build something interesting > or useful with it, and with a couple of days you can build a fully > interactive site. A better licensing policy from SmithMicro, a full free > version with a discreet advert banner, and lower prices, would surely > make it a less confidential product.> > As far as i am concerned, i built very complex administrative systems, > including accounting, invoicing, payrolls etc.... for companies, but i > would not know how to build a simple form-to-mail with php...> > I love WebDNA, its flexibility and its easy-to-learn syntax.> > chris-- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o DONOVAN D. BROOKE Eucalyptus Design <-Web Development (specializing in eCommerce), -> <- Graphic Design, Custom Tags and Labels -> ADDRESS:> Donovan Brooke DBA Eucalyptus Design N2862 Summerville Park Rd. Lodi, WI 53555 PH:> 1.608.592.3567 Web:> http://www.euca.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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