Re: WebDNA - fun to compare
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texte = The only financial savings I can think of when=20 using webdna is programming labor ... Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com >Does the WebDNA MySQL license translate into an=20 >advantage for non-open source applications=20 >versus PHP? I guess I'm interested in how the=20 >cost breaks out in various situations (one=20 >application redistributed or many applications=20 >hosted). > >In some situations, is the cost of WebDNA=20 >cheaper than MySQL + PHP or is it even close? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nitai @ ComputerOil
>Sent: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:20:22 +0100 >To: "WebDNA Talk" >Subject: Re: WebDNA - fun to compare > >Thanks John. I was just pointing out to Ken's=20 >posting about PHP and why WebDNa is not money=20 >making machine for him, that MySQL is not free,=20 >IF one does NOT distribute it's own product as=20 >open source. > >Just as you pointed out "There is no charge as=20 >long as the application is under the GPL and the=20 >source is freely distributed, including a=20 >commercial application." > >Nitai > >-- >Redakto - Content Management that simply works >Content Management & eBusiness Systems > >ComputerOil=AE AG >Dammstrasse 7 >5400 Baden / Switzerland >Telefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66 > >info@computeroil.com >http://computeroil.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of >> John Peacock >> Sent: Donnerstag, 3. M? 2005 17:16 >> To: WebDNA Talk >> Subject: Re: WebDNA - fun to compare >> >> Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote: >> >> > just want to point out (again) that MySQL is actually not for free sin= ce >> they have changed their license agreement some time ago. >> >> You keep saying this, but I don't think you really understand what the >> license supports and doesn't support. The Open Source License clearly >> allows PHP developers (for example) who use MySQL to freely use MySQL as >> long as their own software is also under the GPL (or a compatible >> license). There is no charge as long as the application is under the >> GPL and the source is freely distributed, including a commercial >> application. RT (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) is a good example of >> a commercial application which is freely redistributable; they make >> their money on support and customization. Thus, they can require MySQL >> without needing to pay for a commercial license. >> >> Part of the cost of WebCatalog is that SMSI has paid for a Commercial >> License to MySQL, which allows them to distribute WebDNA with MySQL >> support. There is no additional cost to us if we we use MySQL in our >> own proprietary products using WebDNA, since the MySQL license is paid >> for as part of the license for WebCatalog. >> >> John >> >> -- >> John Peacock >> Director of Information Research and Technology >> Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group >> 4501 Forbes Boulevard >> Suite H >> Lanham, MD 20706 >> 301-459-3366 x.5010 >> fax 301-429-5748 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to=20 > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to=20 > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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The only financial savings I can think of when=20 using webdna is programming labor ... Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com >Does the WebDNA MySQL license translate into an=20 >advantage for non-open source applications=20 >versus PHP? I guess I'm interested in how the=20 >cost breaks out in various situations (one=20 >application redistributed or many applications=20 >hosted). > >In some situations, is the cost of WebDNA=20 >cheaper than MySQL + PHP or is it even close? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nitai @ ComputerOil >Sent: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:20:22 +0100 >To: "WebDNA Talk" >Subject: Re: WebDNA - fun to compare > >Thanks John. I was just pointing out to Ken's=20 >posting about PHP and why WebDNa is not money=20 >making machine for him, that MySQL is not free,=20 >IF one does NOT distribute it's own product as=20 >open source. > >Just as you pointed out "There is no charge as=20 >long as the application is under the GPL and the=20 >source is freely distributed, including a=20 >commercial application." > >Nitai > >-- >Redakto - Content Management that simply works >Content Management & eBusiness Systems > >ComputerOil=AE AG >Dammstrasse 7 >5400 Baden / Switzerland >Telefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66 > >info@computeroil.com >http://computeroil.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of >> John Peacock >> Sent: Donnerstag, 3. M? 2005 17:16 >> To: WebDNA Talk >> Subject: Re: WebDNA - fun to compare >> >> Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote: >> >> > just want to point out (again) that MySQL is actually not for free sin= ce >> they have changed their license agreement some time ago. >> >> You keep saying this, but I don't think you really understand what the >> license supports and doesn't support. The Open Source License clearly >> allows PHP developers (for example) who use MySQL to freely use MySQL as >> long as their own software is also under the GPL (or a compatible >> license). There is no charge as long as the application is under the >> GPL and the source is freely distributed, including a commercial >> application. RT (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) is a good example of >> a commercial application which is freely redistributable; they make >> their money on support and customization. Thus, they can require MySQL >> without needing to pay for a commercial license. >> >> Part of the cost of WebCatalog is that SMSI has paid for a Commercial >> License to MySQL, which allows them to distribute WebDNA with MySQL >> support. There is no additional cost to us if we we use MySQL in our >> own proprietary products using WebDNA, since the MySQL license is paid >> for as part of the license for WebCatalog. >> >> John >> >> -- >> John Peacock >> Director of Information Research and Technology >> Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group >> 4501 Forbes Boulevard >> Suite H >> Lanham, MD 20706 >> 301-459-3366 x.5010 >> fax 301-429-5748 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to=20 > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to=20 > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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