Re: Outsourcing partnership ...
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numero = 61920
interpreted = N
texte = Hey Ken What are they like on JS ? On 05/05/2005, at 2:16 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > Greetings webdna colleagues, > > As you well know, I've been an expert webdna programmer for most of > the last decade. When I moved to the Philippines several years ago I > continued working for my existing webdna clients, and I toyed around > with the idea of creating an outsourcing business here. I was too > busy with other ventures at that time to build an outsourcing > business, but eventually things changed .... > > About a year ago I decided that it was time for me to proceed with my > plans for an outsource programming service. Since I know webdna I > decided to offer webdna programming as part of this service. I > thought you might see this as a way to add value to your existing > webdna consulting/programming businesses. But I may have been wrong > about this ... > > It seems that most of the webdna programmers on this list love > programming webdna. They love it so much that they would rather do all > the programming work themselves than to hire it out, even at a rate of > only $10 per hour. I cannot really blame you because I love webdna > programming myself. But it still seems rather bizarre that there is > not a single webdna programmer on this list who is willing to expand > his business by partnering with me. Sure, I've gotten a few small > jobs from some of you, but nothing like I was hoping for ... > > I actually thought you might see this as an opportunity to position > yourself at the forefront of the inevitable changes in the programming > industry -- so you can benefit from these changes instead of becoming > a victim. But that hasn't happened, so I guess everyone is doing very > well in their businesses and no one really feels the need to change > the way the work. Or maybe one of you is considering a change in your > approach to this business now? > > If you're ready for a change, I have an offer for you: > > Make a commitment to stop doing your own programming work, and > re-focus your efforts on getting us lots and lots of new programming > jobs. Then my programmers will do the actual programming work over > here in the Philippines, and after we split the profits between us we > will both be earning far more than either of us might have earned > individually. But best of all, we will be working with -- not against > -- the natural direction this industry is going, which means that our > approach to this venture has a very promising future. > > By the way, I'm not suggesting that we should limit ourselves to > webdna in this business. In fact, I have gotten so few webdna > projects during the past year that it makes sense to me that we should > just abandon webdna altogether, unless you can get a lot more webdna > jobs than I have! > > The goal in this business should be to get as much programming work as > possible, no matter what language it is in. The more programmers we > have "on the job" over here, the more profits we will generate, and > the stronger our financial positions will grow. We just need to work > together, you in the USA or Europe or Australia (or wherever you are) > and me and my programmers here in the Philippines. > > I doubt that I will hear from any of you (except to complain about > this post of course) but if anyone is seriously interested in this > kind of partnership with me, now is the best time to email me so we > can discuss it further -- privately of course. > > Thanks. > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > www.kengrome.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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Hey Ken What are they like on JS ? On 05/05/2005, at 2:16 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > Greetings webdna colleagues, > > As you well know, I've been an expert webdna programmer for most of > the last decade. When I moved to the Philippines several years ago I > continued working for my existing webdna clients, and I toyed around > with the idea of creating an outsourcing business here. I was too > busy with other ventures at that time to build an outsourcing > business, but eventually things changed .... > > About a year ago I decided that it was time for me to proceed with my > plans for an outsource programming service. Since I know webdna I > decided to offer webdna programming as part of this service. I > thought you might see this as a way to add value to your existing > webdna consulting/programming businesses. But I may have been wrong > about this ... > > It seems that most of the webdna programmers on this list love > programming webdna. They love it so much that they would rather do all > the programming work themselves than to hire it out, even at a rate of > only $10 per hour. I cannot really blame you because I love webdna > programming myself. But it still seems rather bizarre that there is > not a single webdna programmer on this list who is willing to expand > his business by partnering with me. Sure, I've gotten a few small > jobs from some of you, but nothing like I was hoping for ... > > I actually thought you might see this as an opportunity to position > yourself at the forefront of the inevitable changes in the programming > industry -- so you can benefit from these changes instead of becoming > a victim. But that hasn't happened, so I guess everyone is doing very > well in their businesses and no one really feels the need to change > the way the work. Or maybe one of you is considering a change in your > approach to this business now? > > If you're ready for a change, I have an offer for you: > > Make a commitment to stop doing your own programming work, and > re-focus your efforts on getting us lots and lots of new programming > jobs. Then my programmers will do the actual programming work over > here in the Philippines, and after we split the profits between us we > will both be earning far more than either of us might have earned > individually. But best of all, we will be working with -- not against > -- the natural direction this industry is going, which means that our > approach to this venture has a very promising future. > > By the way, I'm not suggesting that we should limit ourselves to > webdna in this business. In fact, I have gotten so few webdna > projects during the past year that it makes sense to me that we should > just abandon webdna altogether, unless you can get a lot more webdna > jobs than I have! > > The goal in this business should be to get as much programming work as > possible, no matter what language it is in. The more programmers we > have "on the job" over here, the more profits we will generate, and > the stronger our financial positions will grow. We just need to work > together, you in the USA or Europe or Australia (or wherever you are) > and me and my programmers here in the Philippines. > > I doubt that I will hear from any of you (except to complain about > this post of course) but if anyone is seriously interested in this > kind of partnership with me, now is the best time to email me so we > can discuss it further -- privately of course. > > Thanks. > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > www.kengrome.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > Regards Stuart Tremain idfk web developments 114a/40 yeo street neutral bay 2089 australia t +612 9908 2134 f +612 9908 4837 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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