Re: Outsourcing partnership ...

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2005


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 61948
interpreted = N
texte = Fair enough. I imagine you'd retain & generate copies of the code, in whole or in part, and utilize it to make future work easier/more profitable, which is fine since you guys *did* write it after all... and why re-invent the wheel, etc., but can your clients be certain that their own code wouldn't be used by you or anyone in your agency to compete against them? I mean, what if I dish you one doozy of an idea, you recognize its potential, you build it, then what? Do you send me the code straight off your drive and then purge your hard drives of it? Where do you stand/how do you feel about this scenario? Thanks. -Dan On Fri, 6 May 2005 10:42:36 +0800 Kenneth Grome wrote: > Clients seldom ask for contracts, but if they produce one I will sign it unless it's >unreasonable. And clients always own the code we write for them, just as if my programmers were >their employees. > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > www.kengrome.com > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2005, at 02:05, Dan Strong wrote: > >> I'd be intersted in knowing how you handle licensing of code and >> contracts and all that considering the international relationship. >> -Dan >> >> On Thu, 5 May 2005 09:54:04 -0700 >> Jesse Proudman wrote: >>> Ken, >>> It is hard for people to commit to this when you don't offer samples >>> of your programmers code, or anything else that we can gauge their >>> work on. Clients do not hire us without looking at our client list >>> and portfolio, and in the same respect, my company wouldn't hire you >>> without the same. I'm sure you would have substantially more luck if >>> you were able to produce something to show us... >>> Just my opinion. >>> On May 4, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>> Greetings webdna colleagues, >>>> >>>> As you well know, I've been an expert webdna programmer for most of >>>> the last decade. When I moved to the Philippines several years ago >>>> I continued working for my existing webdna clients, and I toyed >>>> around with the idea of creating an outsourcing business here. I >>>> was too busy with other ventures at that time to build an >>>> outsourcing business, but eventually things changed .... >>>> -- >>> Jesse Proudman >>> Blue Box Group, LLC >>> p. +1.800.613.4305 x801 >>> e. jesse@blueboxgrp.com >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  2. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( Bob Minor 2005)
  3. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( "Gary Krockover" 2005)
  4. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( "Dan Strong" 2005)
  5. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( "Dan Strong" 2005)
  6. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  7. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( "Dan Strong" 2005)
  8. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( Jesse Proudman 2005)
  9. Re: Outsourcing partnership ... ( Stuart Tremain 2005)
  10. Outsourcing partnership ... ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
Fair enough. I imagine you'd retain & generate copies of the code, in whole or in part, and utilize it to make future work easier/more profitable, which is fine since you guys *did* write it after all... and why re-invent the wheel, etc., but can your clients be certain that their own code wouldn't be used by you or anyone in your agency to compete against them? I mean, what if I dish you one doozy of an idea, you recognize its potential, you build it, then what? Do you send me the code straight off your drive and then purge your hard drives of it? Where do you stand/how do you feel about this scenario? Thanks. -Dan On Fri, 6 May 2005 10:42:36 +0800 Kenneth Grome wrote: > Clients seldom ask for contracts, but if they produce one I will sign it unless it's >unreasonable. And clients always own the code we write for them, just as if my programmers were >their employees. > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > www.kengrome.com > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2005, at 02:05, Dan Strong wrote: > >> I'd be intersted in knowing how you handle licensing of code and >> contracts and all that considering the international relationship. >> -Dan >> >> On Thu, 5 May 2005 09:54:04 -0700 >> Jesse Proudman wrote: >>> Ken, >>> It is hard for people to commit to this when you don't offer samples >>> of your programmers code, or anything else that we can gauge their >>> work on. Clients do not hire us without looking at our client list >>> and portfolio, and in the same respect, my company wouldn't hire you >>> without the same. I'm sure you would have substantially more luck if >>> you were able to produce something to show us... >>> Just my opinion. >>> On May 4, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>> Greetings webdna colleagues, >>>> >>>> As you well know, I've been an expert webdna programmer for most of >>>> the last decade. When I moved to the Philippines several years ago >>>> I continued working for my existing webdna clients, and I toyed >>>> around with the idea of creating an outsourcing business here. I >>>> was too busy with other ventures at that time to build an >>>> outsourcing business, but eventually things changed .... >>>> -- >>> Jesse Proudman >>> Blue Box Group, LLC >>> p. +1.800.613.4305 x801 >>> e. jesse@blueboxgrp.com >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Dan Strong"

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