Re: Outsourcing partnership ...
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texte = After re-reading that... I am not emplying that you'd ever do anything intentionally malicious or negligent, but I am just saying is there a guarantee that a good idea of mine would truly stay 'mine' if that's what I wanted? You being in the Philippines raises interesting questions about the applicability of US copyright law, etc. -Dan On Fri, 06 May 2005 16:34:48 -0700 "Dan Strong"
wrote: >Fair enough. I imagine you'd retain & generate copies of the code, in whole or in part, and >utilize it to make future work easier/more profitable, which is fine since you guys *did* write >it after all... and why re-invent the wheel, etc., but can your clients be certain that their own >code wouldn't be used by you or anyone in your agency to compete against them? I mean, what if I >dish you one doozy of an idea, you recognize its potential, you build it, then what? Do you send >me the code straight off your drive and then purge your hard drives of it? Where do you stand/how >do you feel about this scenario? > Thanks. > -Dan > > On Fri, 6 May 2005 10:42:36 +0800 > Kenneth Grome wrote: >> Clients seldom ask for contracts, but if they produce one I will sign it unless it's >>unreasonable. And clients always own the code we write for them, just as if my programmers were >>their employees. >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> www.kengrome.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 6, 2005, at 02:05, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> I'd be intersted in knowing how you handle licensing of code and >>> contracts and all that considering the international relationship. >>> -Dan >>> >>> On Thu, 5 May 2005 09:54:04 -0700 >>> Jesse Proudman wrote: >>>> Ken, >>>> It is hard for people to commit to this when you don't offer samples >>>> of your programmers code, or anything else that we can gauge their >>>> work on. Clients do not hire us without looking at our client list >>>> and portfolio, and in the same respect, my company wouldn't hire you >>>> without the same. I'm sure you would have substantially more luck if >>>> you were able to produce something to show us... >>>> Just my opinion. >>>> On May 4, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>> Greetings webdna colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> As you well know, I've been an expert webdna programmer for most of >>>>> the last decade. When I moved to the Philippines several years ago >>>>> I continued working for my existing webdna clients, and I toyed >>>>> around with the idea of creating an outsourcing business here. I >>>>> was too busy with other ventures at that time to build an >>>>> outsourcing business, but eventually things changed .... >>>>> -- >>>> Jesse Proudman >>>> Blue Box Group, LLC >>>> p. +1.800.613.4305 x801 >>>> e. jesse@blueboxgrp.com >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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After re-reading that... I am not emplying that you'd ever do anything intentionally malicious or negligent, but I am just saying is there a guarantee that a good idea of mine would truly stay 'mine' if that's what I wanted? You being in the Philippines raises interesting questions about the applicability of US copyright law, etc. -Dan On Fri, 06 May 2005 16:34:48 -0700 "Dan Strong" wrote: >Fair enough. I imagine you'd retain & generate copies of the code, in whole or in part, and >utilize it to make future work easier/more profitable, which is fine since you guys *did* write >it after all... and why re-invent the wheel, etc., but can your clients be certain that their own >code wouldn't be used by you or anyone in your agency to compete against them? I mean, what if I >dish you one doozy of an idea, you recognize its potential, you build it, then what? Do you send >me the code straight off your drive and then purge your hard drives of it? Where do you stand/how >do you feel about this scenario? > Thanks. > -Dan > > On Fri, 6 May 2005 10:42:36 +0800 > Kenneth Grome wrote: >> Clients seldom ask for contracts, but if they produce one I will sign it unless it's >>unreasonable. And clients always own the code we write for them, just as if my programmers were >>their employees. >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> www.kengrome.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 6, 2005, at 02:05, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> I'd be intersted in knowing how you handle licensing of code and >>> contracts and all that considering the international relationship. >>> -Dan >>> >>> On Thu, 5 May 2005 09:54:04 -0700 >>> Jesse Proudman wrote: >>>> Ken, >>>> It is hard for people to commit to this when you don't offer samples >>>> of your programmers code, or anything else that we can gauge their >>>> work on. Clients do not hire us without looking at our client list >>>> and portfolio, and in the same respect, my company wouldn't hire you >>>> without the same. I'm sure you would have substantially more luck if >>>> you were able to produce something to show us... >>>> Just my opinion. >>>> On May 4, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>> Greetings webdna colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> As you well know, I've been an expert webdna programmer for most of >>>>> the last decade. When I moved to the Philippines several years ago >>>>> I continued working for my existing webdna clients, and I toyed >>>>> around with the idea of creating an outsourcing business here. I >>>>> was too busy with other ventures at that time to build an >>>>> outsourcing business, but eventually things changed .... >>>>> -- >>>> Jesse Proudman >>>> Blue Box Group, LLC >>>> p. +1.800.613.4305 x801 >>>> e. jesse@blueboxgrp.com >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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