Re: [WebDNA] [OT] WebDNA Wiki - need grammar check / suggestions
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2009
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = An object-oriented language has a syntax consisting of objects, rather =20= than predominately procedural steps. Just because you can use those =20 procedural steps to make a piece of code that behaves like an object =20 doesn't cut it. Frankly, I'm not very heartbroken that WebDNA isn't OOP. I don't think =20= it would add much benefit. I think that WebDNA is perfect for web servers because the process of =20= creating and sending pages is pretty darn procedural. Although OOP =20 stuff like Flash and JavaScript can exist in a page and do things =20 after the page gets there, page assembly and delivery - especially =20 when data is being retrieved in rows and columns, seems more intuitive =20= in a procedural environment. On Nov 5, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Christer Olsson wrote: > 5 nov 2009 kl. 01.04 skrev Donovan Brooke: > >> Grant Hulbert wrote: >>> Sorry, but WebDNA cannot be considered an object-oriented =20 >>> language. Flexible; friendly; easy-to-use, yes: but not object-=20 >>> oriented. The article will lose credibility if that stays in there. >>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> Though we don't have terms such as "class", "Object", "Method", =20 >>>> etc.. >>>> I think it can be argued that similar general concepts of those =20 >>>> items >>>> can be created with WebDNA using the tool set we have. Include, =20 >>>> Function, Object, Shell/Dos, Variable scoping etc.. all lend =20 >>>> themselves to this idea. I don't have a traditional computer =20 >>>> science background >> >> >> Grant, Christer, thanks for the feedback but it would help if you =20 >> guys >> gave reasoning (in regards to the wikipedia article I posted). >> =46rom my perspective, the description appears to be more inclusive >> than in the scope of only strict compiled (memory allocating) =20 >> languages. > > The very foundation for OOP is the use of objects (instances of =20 > classes which can have properties and methods, all encapsulated =20 > within the class) and inheritance (subclasses of objects that can =20 > share all or just some of their super's properties and methods). > > Best, > Christer > > ************************************************************* > Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 > Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 > Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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An object-oriented language has a syntax consisting of objects, rather =20= than predominately procedural steps. Just because you can use those =20 procedural steps to make a piece of code that behaves like an object =20 doesn't cut it. Frankly, I'm not very heartbroken that WebDNA isn't OOP. I don't think =20= it would add much benefit. I think that WebDNA is perfect for web servers because the process of =20= creating and sending pages is pretty darn procedural. Although OOP =20 stuff like Flash and JavaScript can exist in a page and do things =20 after the page gets there, page assembly and delivery - especially =20 when data is being retrieved in rows and columns, seems more intuitive =20= in a procedural environment. On Nov 5, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Christer Olsson wrote: > 5 nov 2009 kl. 01.04 skrev Donovan Brooke: > >> Grant Hulbert wrote: >>> Sorry, but WebDNA cannot be considered an object-oriented =20 >>> language. Flexible; friendly; easy-to-use, yes: but not object-=20 >>> oriented. The article will lose credibility if that stays in there. >>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> Though we don't have terms such as "class", "Object", "Method", =20 >>>> etc.. >>>> I think it can be argued that similar general concepts of those =20 >>>> items >>>> can be created with WebDNA using the tool set we have. Include, =20 >>>> Function, Object, Shell/Dos, Variable scoping etc.. all lend =20 >>>> themselves to this idea. I don't have a traditional computer =20 >>>> science background >> >> >> Grant, Christer, thanks for the feedback but it would help if you =20 >> guys >> gave reasoning (in regards to the wikipedia article I posted). >> =46rom my perspective, the description appears to be more inclusive >> than in the scope of only strict compiled (memory allocating) =20 >> languages. > > The very foundation for OOP is the use of objects (instances of =20 > classes which can have properties and methods, all encapsulated =20 > within the class) and inheritance (subclasses of objects that can =20 > share all or just some of their super's properties and methods). > > Best, > Christer > > ************************************************************* > Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 > Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 > Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > Bug Reporting: = http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288
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