Re: [WebDNA] Is WebDNA slowing things up - please try these URL's
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texte = Christophe, It's all about the user experience and you hit the nail with this = statement... "... starts to load earlier with static and later with dynamic and it = makes the WebDNA page subjectively slower..." The early start makes the user experience much better regardless of the = the two finishing at the same time. The first impression is king - which = makes WebDNA Second Place in this measurement. /Palle On 26/03/2013, at 11.52, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > If you check the webpage tests links i added, you will see very little = difference. However when apache serves statics files at disk speed, = WebDNA servers dynamic pages at RAM speed. This means that once the = "First Byte" has been delivered, WebDNA is faster than apache serving = static files, depending only on the processing power requested by your = code. In your test, the page is completely loaded in about the same = time, but it starts to load earlier with static and later with dynamic = and it makes the WebDNA page subjectively slower. Test it with objective = tools, as i did: the difference is negligible. >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 26, 2013, at 13:23, Palle Bo Nielsen
= wrote: >=20 >> But Christphe, >>=20 >> There is not a difference of 0.05 seconds as you state. The = difference is more like 0.5 sec on the repeated view. >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >> On 26/03/2013, at 09.09, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>=20 >>> A is sent from apache to webdna which returns to apache after = interpretation. B is static and served from the disc, then cached. B = might be faster than A by 0.05 second. This is normal, dynamic webpages = will usually take slightly longer to deliver the "First Byte". >>>=20 >>> http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130326_RM_AZ1/ >>> http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130326_QA_AYZ/ >>>=20 >>> - chris >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 21:41, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Looking for some feedback here... >>>>=20 >>>> Spec: Mac OS X 10.8.3 Mountain Lion Server. Using Server App and = WebDNA FastCGI 7.x (Latest). >>>>=20 >>>> I made two websites just to test what I think is too different = behavior. >>>>=20 >>>> Please try the following websites: >>>>=20 >>>> (A) http://1.qt.dk/ >>>>=20 >>>> (B) http://2.qt.dk/ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> (A) has included in the code where as (B) = does not. >>>>=20 >>>> (A) is getting interpreted by WebDNA as expected (B) is not as = expected. >>>>=20 >>>> (A) has .dna whereas (B) has .html. If (B) got .dna then it would = be just a responsive as (A), which is not prefered. >>>>=20 >>>> So, why is (A) so much slower then (B)?? It seems like (when = looking at the progress bar in the browser, that it needs to think (or = wait) for something in scenario (A). >>>>=20 >>>> Any thoughts? >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle--------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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Christophe, It's all about the user experience and you hit the nail with this = statement... "... starts to load earlier with static and later with dynamic and it = makes the WebDNA page subjectively slower..." The early start makes the user experience much better regardless of the = the two finishing at the same time. The first impression is king - which = makes WebDNA Second Place in this measurement. /Palle On 26/03/2013, at 11.52, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > If you check the webpage tests links i added, you will see very little = difference. However when apache serves statics files at disk speed, = WebDNA servers dynamic pages at RAM speed. This means that once the = "First Byte" has been delivered, WebDNA is faster than apache serving = static files, depending only on the processing power requested by your = code. In your test, the page is completely loaded in about the same = time, but it starts to load earlier with static and later with dynamic = and it makes the WebDNA page subjectively slower. Test it with objective = tools, as i did: the difference is negligible. >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 26, 2013, at 13:23, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >=20 >> But Christphe, >>=20 >> There is not a difference of 0.05 seconds as you state. The = difference is more like 0.5 sec on the repeated view. >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >> On 26/03/2013, at 09.09, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>=20 >>> A is sent from apache to webdna which returns to apache after = interpretation. B is static and served from the disc, then cached. B = might be faster than A by 0.05 second. This is normal, dynamic webpages = will usually take slightly longer to deliver the "First Byte". >>>=20 >>> http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130326_RM_AZ1/ >>> http://www.webpagetest.org/result/130326_QA_AYZ/ >>>=20 >>> - chris >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 21:41, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Looking for some feedback here... >>>>=20 >>>> Spec: Mac OS X 10.8.3 Mountain Lion Server. Using Server App and = WebDNA FastCGI 7.x (Latest). >>>>=20 >>>> I made two websites just to test what I think is too different = behavior. >>>>=20 >>>> Please try the following websites: >>>>=20 >>>> (A) http://1.qt.dk/ >>>>=20 >>>> (B) http://2.qt.dk/ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> (A) has included in the code where as (B) = does not. >>>>=20 >>>> (A) is getting interpreted by WebDNA as expected (B) is not as = expected. >>>>=20 >>>> (A) has .dna whereas (B) has .html. If (B) got .dna then it would = be just a responsive as (A), which is not prefered. >>>>=20 >>>> So, why is (A) so much slower then (B)?? It seems like (when = looking at the progress bar in the browser, that it needs to think (or = wait) for something in scenario (A). >>>>=20 >>>> Any thoughts? >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle--------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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