Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA

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texte = --Apple-Mail-2-809575467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could it be that the process that removes the mail from EMailFolder/ and move it to EMailCompleted/ be too slow for the tick? my guess is the email is a large one and WebDNA will send it again and again before having the chance to move it. There is a mechanism that "locks" the mail while it is sent to prevent WebDNA to move it too fast. - chris On Sep 18, 2008, at 20:34, Stuart Tremain wrote: > I have had a few systems that send bulk emails using WebDNA however > have run into BIG problems. > > The problem that arises (spam and all that stuff aside) is that > sometimes one or two people in a mailing receive the email 60-80-100 > times. The logs show only one instance being sent, I have tried > using different SMTP gateways but keep coming back to the ONE common > factor - WebDNA. My gut feeling is that there is a "bug" (?) in the > process that sends the email to the SMTP server. After trying to > sort out this problem with one client over a period of 3 years we > have finally dumped the WebDNA solution. > > One of the Network Managers with my client noted that they had the > same problem when they were using SendMail on Linux, I wonder if the > engine in WebDNA has been borrowed from SendMail and therefore > inheriting the problem. > > All my problems have been on Windows 2003 server platform. > > Regards > > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > On 18/09/2008, at 6:47 PM, Tom Duke wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I need to upgrade a mass email tool that I have built for a >> client. They are currently mailing to a list of about 7000. I was >> wondering if anyone else has built such a tool? >> >> Things I need to code in to the upgrade are: >> >> - the ability to mail to a list of up 400000 >> - the ability to track open rates for the email >> - some method of handling email bounces >> >> I figure I need to decide whether WebDNA can do all this or whether >> I need to look at something else like phpList. >> >> Thanks >> - Tom > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ --Apple-Mail-2-809575467 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGdDCCAy0w ggKWoAMCAQICEHwUL7Uyx2mBFQoavFLMdpMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDYxOTEzMzk1N1oXDTA5MDYxOTEzMzk1 N1owczEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYRY2hy aXNAemFyY3JvbS5jb20xLjAsBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWH2NocmlzdG9waGUuYmlsbGlvdHRldEB3ZWJk bmEudXMwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQCwA1c4NNclm+DlKmbtoBPGfkOx hixFXi2KjVzFehugBE7DdX4na6/GbqFGf5pN7iv8pAKUNoRvEEJIg1vh7+kbLjpprPdks3VahzQ3 30NSQoInlgpx0jXRWLVIdjbTIwh02zC3tLuUjizLKAIpwrqLRB5/TPQTE2CtON0UAlCkjT2NZDmP YYaBUhcXQq8Dr6b2rfeG4m9bfBRJPp+6wWC2bEiqlLiS1bCGBn2Q/e5SwS2cplog0zefw9xxGfaE jc+V2iX0Pk+n5ys3KMGaKD2wUfHJiL3+aHaPbVLGzhcqUdI8EKWtskYQO5aKRF+TYWL/1WiVtMub 6dSz+mFTZ5yrAgMBAAGjTzBNMD0GA1UdEQQ2MDSBEWNocmlzQHphcmNyb20uY29tgR9jaHJpc3Rv cGhlLmJpbGxpb3R0ZXRAd2ViZG5hLnVzMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEA CJDwYZul/Lmg+69vwsi23WN3PQCvclVLLXjI2IlMIoq6e/SJzOE9r7e0jNlXYhZOo6PpRATnt2hD wFD04hbUuCenNU+aijNKQBE7AFD99i5wzZ+KbhGqHA+NVmTrQ3fGei8XovZEiXswPQ6Fv5MWa/nl cOvAJZIJKJ2netk2eDUwggM/MIICqKADAgECAgENMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQG EwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoT EVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlz aW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEW HHBlcnNvbmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMwNzE3MDAwMDAwWhcNMTMwNzE2MjM1 OTU5WjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRk LjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUEcJ3f6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHy v1HOAdTlUAow1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/EfkTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsYPge/ QIACZNenprufZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7AgMBAAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgw BgEB/wIBADBDBgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRwOi8vY3JsLnRoYXd0ZS5jb20vVGhhd3RlUGVy c29uYWxGcmVlbWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQeMBwxGjAYBgNVBAMT EVByaXZhdGVMYWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAEiM0VCD6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7C F6FDlpSdf0whuPg2H6otnzYvwPQcUCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+hLGZGwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcl jd2pnDmOjCBPZV+V2vf3h9bGCE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIDEDCC AwwCAQEwdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkg THRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEHwUL7Uy x2mBFQoavFLMdpMwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAW8wGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkq hkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMDgwOTE5MDAwMDI4WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUvKpor0hPLUr8Jsy9I3Zv hEZIiUswgYUGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDF4MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBD b25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJ c3N1aW5nIENBAhB8FC+1MsdpgRUKGrxSzHaTMIGHBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzF4oHYwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1Ro YXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhB8FC+1MsdpgRUKGrxSzHaTMA0GCSqG SIb3DQEBAQUABIIBACHw+6ftGX8uZJXLvpBCVP8gHpbnRPmYR2G38IbMvPtmc6Q179nirM7ZisBj FaoatE/J+C6OxxVMIbbY9Pux+ddgThVgc2CYQntmMlhnowLEkeyUJKa/H8HIncgschx05Ebuy4e/ Ak5mEDIGm2RIXQ16mss2qc5sMrppsjDy7JLfFSvyDnYu0Gziup9niufxWvTculSVuz4sVZXOxve4 WWjY1q0SlaZOffuLayp7kTiOk/aNCZ1hyo2RyHgA8OgKPhFeM+wYz9k3rpqtn0jboWtbDkQ9Ykry f3mIy3QhN87lAyhIELTYI+l7wC4m/3LUCPKekBeyQ8eEAmzbN+ApeTQAAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail-2-809575467-- Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA ("Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi " 2008)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Chris 2008)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Stuart Tremain 2008)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Chris 2008)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA ("Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi " 2008)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Marc Thompson 2008)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA ("Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi " 2008)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Chris 2008)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA ("Tom Duke" 2008)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  14. [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA ("Tom Duke" 2008)
--Apple-Mail-2-809575467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could it be that the process that removes the mail from EMailFolder/ and move it to EMailCompleted/ be too slow for the tick? my guess is the email is a large one and WebDNA will send it again and again before having the chance to move it. There is a mechanism that "locks" the mail while it is sent to prevent WebDNA to move it too fast. - chris On Sep 18, 2008, at 20:34, Stuart Tremain wrote: > I have had a few systems that send bulk emails using WebDNA however > have run into BIG problems. > > The problem that arises (spam and all that stuff aside) is that > sometimes one or two people in a mailing receive the email 60-80-100 > times. The logs show only one instance being sent, I have tried > using different SMTP gateways but keep coming back to the ONE common > factor - WebDNA. My gut feeling is that there is a "bug" (?) in the > process that sends the email to the SMTP server. After trying to > sort out this problem with one client over a period of 3 years we > have finally dumped the WebDNA solution. > > One of the Network Managers with my client noted that they had the > same problem when they were using SendMail on Linux, I wonder if the > engine in WebDNA has been borrowed from SendMail and therefore > inheriting the problem. > > All my problems have been on Windows 2003 server platform. > > Regards > > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au > > > > > On 18/09/2008, at 6:47 PM, Tom Duke wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I need to upgrade a mass email tool that I have built for a >> client. They are currently mailing to a list of about 7000. I was >> wondering if anyone else has built such a tool? >> >> Things I need to code in to the upgrade are: >> >> - the ability to mail to a list of up 400000 >> - the ability to track open rates for the email >> - some method of handling email bounces >> >> I figure I need to decide whether WebDNA can do all this or whether >> I need to look at something else like phpList. >> >> Thanks >> - Tom > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ --Apple-Mail-2-809575467 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGdDCCAy0w ggKWoAMCAQICEHwUL7Uyx2mBFQoavFLMdpMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDYxOTEzMzk1N1oXDTA5MDYxOTEzMzk1 N1owczEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYRY2hy aXNAemFyY3JvbS5jb20xLjAsBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWH2NocmlzdG9waGUuYmlsbGlvdHRldEB3ZWJk bmEudXMwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQCwA1c4NNclm+DlKmbtoBPGfkOx hixFXi2KjVzFehugBE7DdX4na6/GbqFGf5pN7iv8pAKUNoRvEEJIg1vh7+kbLjpprPdks3VahzQ3 30NSQoInlgpx0jXRWLVIdjbTIwh02zC3tLuUjizLKAIpwrqLRB5/TPQTE2CtON0UAlCkjT2NZDmP YYaBUhcXQq8Dr6b2rfeG4m9bfBRJPp+6wWC2bEiqlLiS1bCGBn2Q/e5SwS2cplog0zefw9xxGfaE jc+V2iX0Pk+n5ys3KMGaKD2wUfHJiL3+aHaPbVLGzhcqUdI8EKWtskYQO5aKRF+TYWL/1WiVtMub 6dSz+mFTZ5yrAgMBAAGjTzBNMD0GA1UdEQQ2MDSBEWNocmlzQHphcmNyb20uY29tgR9jaHJpc3Rv cGhlLmJpbGxpb3R0ZXRAd2ViZG5hLnVzMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEA CJDwYZul/Lmg+69vwsi23WN3PQCvclVLLXjI2IlMIoq6e/SJzOE9r7e0jNlXYhZOo6PpRATnt2hD wFD04hbUuCenNU+aijNKQBE7AFD99i5wzZ+KbhGqHA+NVmTrQ3fGei8XovZEiXswPQ6Fv5MWa/nl cOvAJZIJKJ2netk2eDUwggM/MIICqKADAgECAgENMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQG EwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoT EVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlz aW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEW HHBlcnNvbmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMwNzE3MDAwMDAwWhcNMTMwNzE2MjM1 OTU5WjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRk LjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUEcJ3f6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHy v1HOAdTlUAow1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/EfkTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsYPge/ QIACZNenprufZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7AgMBAAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgw BgEB/wIBADBDBgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRwOi8vY3JsLnRoYXd0ZS5jb20vVGhhd3RlUGVy c29uYWxGcmVlbWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQeMBwxGjAYBgNVBAMT EVByaXZhdGVMYWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAEiM0VCD6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7C F6FDlpSdf0whuPg2H6otnzYvwPQcUCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+hLGZGwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcl jd2pnDmOjCBPZV+V2vf3h9bGCE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIDEDCC AwwCAQEwdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkg THRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEHwUL7Uy x2mBFQoavFLMdpMwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAW8wGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkq hkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMDgwOTE5MDAwMDI4WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUvKpor0hPLUr8Jsy9I3Zv hEZIiUswgYUGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDF4MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBD b25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJ c3N1aW5nIENBAhB8FC+1MsdpgRUKGrxSzHaTMIGHBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzF4oHYwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1Ro YXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhB8FC+1MsdpgRUKGrxSzHaTMA0GCSqG SIb3DQEBAQUABIIBACHw+6ftGX8uZJXLvpBCVP8gHpbnRPmYR2G38IbMvPtmc6Q179nirM7ZisBj FaoatE/J+C6OxxVMIbbY9Pux+ddgThVgc2CYQntmMlhnowLEkeyUJKa/H8HIncgschx05Ebuy4e/ Ak5mEDIGm2RIXQ16mss2qc5sMrppsjDy7JLfFSvyDnYu0Gziup9niufxWvTculSVuz4sVZXOxve4 WWjY1q0SlaZOffuLayp7kTiOk/aNCZ1hyo2RyHgA8OgKPhFeM+wYz9k3rpqtn0jboWtbDkQ9Ykry f3mIy3QhN87lAyhIELTYI+l7wC4m/3LUCPKekBeyQ8eEAmzbN+ApeTQAAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail-2-809575467-- Christophe Billiottet

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