Re: [WebDNA] Mass email using WebDNA
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texte = --Apple-Mail-2-809575467Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;format=flowed;delsp=yesContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitCould it be that the process that removes the mail from EMailFolder/ and move it to EMailCompleted/ be too slow for the tick? my guess is the email is a large one and WebDNA will send it again and again before having the chance to move it. There is a mechanism that "locks" the mail while it is sent to prevent WebDNA to move it too fast.- chrisOn Sep 18, 2008, at 20:34, Stuart Tremain wrote:> I have had a few systems that send bulk emails using WebDNA however > have run into BIG problems.>> The problem that arises (spam and all that stuff aside) is that > sometimes one or two people in a mailing receive the email 60-80-100 > times. The logs show only one instance being sent, I have tried > using different SMTP gateways but keep coming back to the ONE common > factor - WebDNA. My gut feeling is that there is a "bug" (?) in the > process that sends the email to the SMTP server. After trying to > sort out this problem with one client over a period of 3 years we > have finally dumped the WebDNA solution.>> One of the Network Managers with my client noted that they had the > same problem when they were using SendMail on Linux, I wonder if the > engine in WebDNA has been borrowed from SendMail and therefore > inheriting the problem.>> All my problems have been on Windows 2003 server platform.>> Regards>> Stuart Tremain> IDFK Web Developments> AUSTRALIA> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>> On 18/09/2008, at 6:47 PM, Tom Duke wrote:>>> Hi all,>>>> I need to upgrade a mass email tool that I have built for a >> client. They are currently mailing to a list of about 7000. I was >> wondering if anyone else has built such a tool?>>>> Things I need to code in to the upgrade are:>>>> - the ability to mail to a list of up 400000>> - the ability to track open rates for the email>> - some method of handling email bounces>>>> I figure I need to decide whether WebDNA can do all this or whether >> I need to look at something else like phpList.>>>> Thanks>> - Tom>> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list
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--Apple-Mail-2-809575467Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;format=flowed;delsp=yesContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitCould it be that the process that removes the mail from EMailFolder/ and move it to EMailCompleted/ be too slow for the tick? my guess is the email is a large one and WebDNA will send it again and again before having the chance to move it. There is a mechanism that "locks" the mail while it is sent to prevent WebDNA to move it too fast.- chrisOn Sep 18, 2008, at 20:34, Stuart Tremain wrote:> I have had a few systems that send bulk emails using WebDNA however > have run into BIG problems.>> The problem that arises (spam and all that stuff aside) is that > sometimes one or two people in a mailing receive the email 60-80-100 > times. The logs show only one instance being sent, I have tried > using different SMTP gateways but keep coming back to the ONE common > factor - WebDNA. My gut feeling is that there is a "bug" (?) in the > process that sends the email to the SMTP server. After trying to > sort out this problem with one client over a period of 3 years we > have finally dumped the WebDNA solution.>> One of the Network Managers with my client noted that they had the > same problem when they were using SendMail on Linux, I wonder if the > engine in WebDNA has been borrowed from SendMail and therefore > inheriting the problem.>> All my problems have been on Windows 2003 server platform.>> Regards>> Stuart Tremain> IDFK Web Developments> AUSTRALIA> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>> On 18/09/2008, at 6:47 PM, Tom Duke wrote:>>> Hi all,>>>> I need to upgrade a mass email tool that I have built for a >> client. They are currently mailing to a list of about 7000. I was >> wondering if anyone else has built such a tool?>>>> Things I need to code in to the upgrade are:>>>> - the ability to mail to a list of up 400000>> - the ability to track open rates for the email>> - some method of handling email bounces>>>> I figure I need to decide whether WebDNA can do all this or whether >> I need to look at something else like phpList.>>>> Thanks>> - Tom>> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/--Apple-Mail-2-809575467Content-Disposition: attachment;filename=smime.p7sContent-Type: application/pkcs7-signature;name=smime.p7sContent-Transfer-Encoding: base64MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGdDCCAy0wggKWoAMCAQICEHwUL7Uyx2mBFQoavFLMdpMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDYxOTEzMzk1N1oXDTA5MDYxOTEzMzk1N1owczEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYRY2hyaXNAemFyY3JvbS5jb20xLjAsBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWH2NocmlzdG9waGUuYmlsbGlvdHRldEB3ZWJkbmEudXMwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQCwA1c4NNclm+DlKmbtoBPGfkOxhixFXi2KjVzFehugBE7DdX4na6/GbqFGf5pN7iv8pAKUNoRvEEJIg1vh7+kbLjpprPdks3VahzQ330NSQoInlgpx0jXRWLVIdjbTIwh02zC3tLuUjizLKAIpwrqLRB5/TPQTE2CtON0UAlCkjT2NZDmPYYaBUhcXQq8Dr6b2rfeG4m9bfBRJPp+6wWC2bEiqlLiS1bCGBn2Q/e5SwS2cplog0zefw9xxGfaEjc+V2iX0Pk+n5ys3KMGaKD2wUfHJiL3+aHaPbVLGzhcqUdI8EKWtskYQO5aKRF+TYWL/1WiVtMub6dSz+mFTZ5yrAgMBAAGjTzBNMD0GA1UdEQQ2MDSBEWNocmlzQHphcmNyb20uY29tgR9jaHJpc3RvcGhlLmJpbGxpb3R0ZXRAd2ViZG5hLnVzMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEACJDwYZul/Lmg+69vwsi23WN3PQCvclVLLXjI2IlMIoq6e/SJzOE9r7e0jNlXYhZOo6PpRATnt2hDwFD04hbUuCenNU+aijNKQBE7AFD99i5wzZ+KbhGqHA+NVmTrQ3fGei8XovZEiXswPQ6Fv5MWa/nlcOvAJZIJKJ2netk2eDUwggM/MIICqKADAgECAgENMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMwNzE3MDAwMDAwWhcNMTMwNzE2MjM1OTU5WjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUEcJ3f6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHyv1HOAdTlUAow1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/EfkTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsYPge/QIACZNenprufZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7AgMBAAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADBDBgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRwOi8vY3JsLnRoYXd0ZS5jb20vVGhhd3RlUGVyc29uYWxGcmVlbWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQeMBwxGjAYBgNVBAMTEVByaXZhdGVMYWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAEiM0VCD6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7CF6FDlpSdf0whuPg2H6otnzYvwPQcUCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+hLGZGwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcljd2pnDmOjCBPZV+V2vf3h9bGCE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIDEDCCAwwCAQEwdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEHwUL7Uyx2mBFQoavFLMdpMwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAW8wGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMDgwOTE5MDAwMDI4WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUvKpor0hPLUr8Jsy9I3ZvhEZIiUswgYUGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDF4MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhB8FC+1MsdpgRUKGrxSzHaTMIGHBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzF4oHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhB8FC+1MsdpgRUKGrxSzHaTMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIIBACHw+6ftGX8uZJXLvpBCVP8gHpbnRPmYR2G38IbMvPtmc6Q179nirM7ZisBjFaoatE/J+C6OxxVMIbbY9Pux+ddgThVgc2CYQntmMlhnowLEkeyUJKa/H8HIncgschx05Ebuy4e/Ak5mEDIGm2RIXQ16mss2qc5sMrppsjDy7JLfFSvyDnYu0Gziup9niufxWvTculSVuz4sVZXOxve4WWjY1q0SlaZOffuLayp7kTiOk/aNCZ1hyo2RyHgA8OgKPhFeM+wYz9k3rpqtn0jboWtbDkQ9Ykryf3mIy3QhN87lAyhIELTYI+l7wC4m/3LUCPKekBeyQ8eEAmzbN+ApeTQAAAAAAAA=--Apple-Mail-2-809575467--
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