Re: [WebDNA] Amazon EC2
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2009
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = --Apple-Mail-40--481342704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3 Jun 2009, at 19:37, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Paul Willis wrote: >> >> We are looking into using Amazon Web Services more and I wonder if >> the WebDNA corp have considered setting up an Amazon AMI with >> WebDNA built in... >> http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2007/07/start-filling-u.html > > From the outset, it looks like a medium instance runs at a base > price around $300/mo, then goes up from their with the different > misc. costs.. data transfer, etc.. > > Whereas, One can glean a virtual machine from GoDaddy for $30/mo. > > However, the GoDaddy virtual server, in our test, does not have > great performance. Any reports on Amazon Cloud performance? > > Maybe I am reading the pricing structure wrong? I think you are comparing apples and oranges... The smallest of the Amazon instances has 1.7GB of RAM compared to your $30 Godaddy's 256 MB and "the equivalent CPU capacity of a 1.0-1.2 GHz 2007 Opteron or 2007 Xeon processor" rather than unknown shared CPU. You have access to unlimited storage space on Amazon (S3 on a pay as you use basis) rather than a fixed 10GB I don't have any performance figures but each instance has dedicated CPU, memory and instance storage so it's more like a GoDaddy Dedicated Server. ...etc etc. If you plan to run an instance 24/7 you should look at the Reserved ones. You pay an annual up front fee and then a lower hourly running cost. Overall they work out roughly half the price of on-demand instances if you run them 24/7. A small Reserved instance works out at $49 pm ($22 monthly 24/7 usage + $325 / 12 annual fee) The on-demand instances are priced for you start them up and shut them down as a when you wanrt and only pay for the time you use. > Anyway, it would be interesting to hear more comments on this subject. I could go on about all the other features and advantages of AWS, I'm completely sold on the idea, but as others have pointed out the original idea here was that you create an AMI so that developers can rent a WebDNA server by the hour for as long as they need it. Not only would WebDNA Software Corporation make a few cents per hour on every server that was launched but it could also expose WebDNA to a wider audience. Ken wouldn't need to buy 10 WebDNA licences he could just buy one to have on a WebDNA instance 24/7 and instal it as normal then when he needed extra capacity he could launch 9 instances of your AMI paying you a couple of cents per hour till he shuts them down again. Paul --Apple-Mail-40--481342704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 3 Jun 2009, at = 19:37, Donovan Brooke wrote:
Paul = Willis wrote:
We are looking into using Amazon = Web Services more and I wonder if the WebDNA corp have considered = setting up an Amazon AMI with WebDNA built = in...
http://aw= s.typepad.com/aws/2007/07/start-filling-u.html
=46rom the = outset, it looks like a medium instance runs at a base
price around = $300/mo, then goes up from their with the different
misc. costs.. = data transfer, etc..
Whereas, One can glean a virtual machine = from GoDaddy for $30/mo.
However, the GoDaddy virtual server, in = our test, does not have
great performance. Any reports on Amazon = Cloud performance?
Maybe I am reading the pricing structure = wrong?
I think you are = comparing apples and oranges...
The smallest of = the Amazon instances has 1.7GB of RAM compared to your $30 Godaddy's 256 = MB and "the equivalent CPU capacity of a 1.0-1.2 GHz 2007 Opteron or = 2007 Xeon processor" rather than unknown shared = CPU.
You have access to unlimited storage space = on Amazon (S3 on a pay as you use basis) rather than a fixed = 10GB
I don't have any performance figures but = each instance has dedicated CPU, memory and instance storage so = it's more like a GoDaddy Dedicated = Server.
...etc etc.
If = you plan to run an instance 24/7 you should look at the Reserved ones. = You pay an annual up front fee and then a lower hourly running cost. = Overall they work out roughly half the price of on-demand instances if = you run them 24/7.
A small Reserved instance = works out at $49 pm ($22 monthly 24/7 usage + $325 / 12 annual = fee)
The on-demand instances are priced for you = start them up and shut them down as a when you wanrt and only pay for = the time you use.
Anyway, it would be interesting to hear more comments = on this subject.
I could go = on about all the other features and advantages of AWS, I'm completely = sold on the idea, but as others have pointed out the original idea here = was that you create an AMI so that developers can rent a WebDNA server = by the hour for as long as they need it. Not only would = WebDNA Software Corporation make a few cents per hour on every = server that was launched but it could also expose WebDNA to a wider = audience.
Ken wouldn't need to buy 10 WebDNA licences = he could just buy one to have on a WebDNA instance 24/7 and instal = it as normal then when he needed extra capacity he could launch 9 = instances of your AMI paying you a couple of cents per hour till he = shuts them down again.
Paul
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--Apple-Mail-40--481342704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3 Jun 2009, at 19:37, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Paul Willis wrote: >> >> We are looking into using Amazon Web Services more and I wonder if >> the WebDNA corp have considered setting up an Amazon AMI with >> WebDNA built in... >> http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2007/07/start-filling-u.html > > From the outset, it looks like a medium instance runs at a base > price around $300/mo, then goes up from their with the different > misc. costs.. data transfer, etc.. > > Whereas, One can glean a virtual machine from GoDaddy for $30/mo. > > However, the GoDaddy virtual server, in our test, does not have > great performance. Any reports on Amazon Cloud performance? > > Maybe I am reading the pricing structure wrong? I think you are comparing apples and oranges... The smallest of the Amazon instances has 1.7GB of RAM compared to your $30 Godaddy's 256 MB and "the equivalent CPU capacity of a 1.0-1.2 GHz 2007 Opteron or 2007 Xeon processor" rather than unknown shared CPU. You have access to unlimited storage space on Amazon (S3 on a pay as you use basis) rather than a fixed 10GB I don't have any performance figures but each instance has dedicated CPU, memory and instance storage so it's more like a GoDaddy Dedicated Server. ...etc etc. If you plan to run an instance 24/7 you should look at the Reserved ones. You pay an annual up front fee and then a lower hourly running cost. Overall they work out roughly half the price of on-demand instances if you run them 24/7. A small Reserved instance works out at $49 pm ($22 monthly 24/7 usage + $325 / 12 annual fee) The on-demand instances are priced for you start them up and shut them down as a when you wanrt and only pay for the time you use. > Anyway, it would be interesting to hear more comments on this subject. I could go on about all the other features and advantages of AWS, I'm completely sold on the idea, but as others have pointed out the original idea here was that you create an AMI so that developers can rent a WebDNA server by the hour for as long as they need it. Not only would WebDNA Software Corporation make a few cents per hour on every server that was launched but it could also expose WebDNA to a wider audience. Ken wouldn't need to buy 10 WebDNA licences he could just buy one to have on a WebDNA instance 24/7 and instal it as normal then when he needed extra capacity he could launch 9 instances of your AMI paying you a couple of cents per hour till he shuts them down again. Paul --Apple-Mail-40--481342704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 3 Jun 2009, at = 19:37, Donovan Brooke wrote:
Paul = Willis wrote:
We are looking into using Amazon = Web Services more and I wonder if the WebDNA corp have considered = setting up an Amazon AMI with WebDNA built = in...
http://aw= s.typepad.com/aws/2007/07/start-filling-u.html
=46rom the = outset, it looks like a medium instance runs at a base
price around = $300/mo, then goes up from their with the different
misc. costs.. = data transfer, etc..
Whereas, One can glean a virtual machine = from GoDaddy for $30/mo.
However, the GoDaddy virtual server, in = our test, does not have
great performance. Any reports on Amazon = Cloud performance?
Maybe I am reading the pricing structure = wrong?
I think you are = comparing apples and oranges...
The smallest of = the Amazon instances has 1.7GB of RAM compared to your $30 Godaddy's 256 = MB and "the equivalent CPU capacity of a 1.0-1.2 GHz 2007 Opteron or = 2007 Xeon processor" rather than unknown shared = CPU.
You have access to unlimited storage space = on Amazon (S3 on a pay as you use basis) rather than a fixed = 10GB
I don't have any performance figures but = each instance has dedicated CPU, memory and instance storage so = it's more like a GoDaddy Dedicated = Server.
...etc etc.
If = you plan to run an instance 24/7 you should look at the Reserved ones. = You pay an annual up front fee and then a lower hourly running cost. = Overall they work out roughly half the price of on-demand instances if = you run them 24/7.
A small Reserved instance = works out at $49 pm ($22 monthly 24/7 usage + $325 / 12 annual = fee)
The on-demand instances are priced for you = start them up and shut them down as a when you wanrt and only pay for = the time you use.
Anyway, it would be interesting to hear more comments = on this subject.
I could go = on about all the other features and advantages of AWS, I'm completely = sold on the idea, but as others have pointed out the original idea here = was that you create an AMI so that developers can rent a WebDNA server = by the hour for as long as they need it. Not only would = WebDNA Software Corporation make a few cents per hour on every = server that was launched but it could also expose WebDNA to a wider = audience.
Ken wouldn't need to buy 10 WebDNA licences = he could just buy one to have on a WebDNA instance 24/7 and instal = it as normal then when he needed extra capacity he could launch 9 = instances of your AMI paying you a couple of cents per hour till he = shuts them down again.
Paul
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