Re: [WebDNA] Amazon EC2
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texte = >>> We would then not make any money off of of this model. In >>> other words, we would charge per instance the same as >>> what we would pay to Amazon. Re charging: The Amazon model is that they bill the customer, then you =20= get sent any extra that they have collected for you based on the =20 hourly price you set. > The pricing model is a complicated matter here: if we charge $1/=20 > hour, we would exclude the users interested to do their regular =20 > hosting with amazon: with 720 hours a month, a simple slice would =20 > cost the user almost $800 a month for just a DE license. If the =20 > user's plan is just running it few hours, then yes: but we would =20 > charge few dollars for a free license. > > So, our idea was to provide it for free: the customer will not be =20 > able to run more than 3 concurrent requests, which makes it useless =20= > for a web server, but is fine for a test. If (and he will!) the user =20= > is convinced, then he will buy his license with us and get a =20 > relatively cheap hosting at amazon, by just writing his Lic. number =20= > in the admin interface. > > Another point: what licensing model should we adopt if a user runs =20 > not one instance, but several instances of the same server (to add =20 > temporary extra capacity)? As Ken said I'm not telling you how to run your business, just =20 thinking out loud.... I think the free DE version is a good idea, it is something that can =20 be done relatively easily but in the long run I think you would be =20 better off with the hourly charge model. Have a look at = http://aws.amazon.com/devpay/=20 which gives a bit more info. They have a system of =93product token=94 = =20 and =93user token" to keep people from stealing the code/serial numbers. I don't know what would be involved in making WebDNA work with the =20 Amazon system. You might want to contact them and see what they have =20 to say. Paul=
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>>> We would then not make any money off of of this model. In >>> other words, we would charge per instance the same as >>> what we would pay to Amazon. Re charging: The Amazon model is that they bill the customer, then you =20= get sent any extra that they have collected for you based on the =20 hourly price you set. > The pricing model is a complicated matter here: if we charge $1/=20 > hour, we would exclude the users interested to do their regular =20 > hosting with amazon: with 720 hours a month, a simple slice would =20 > cost the user almost $800 a month for just a DE license. If the =20 > user's plan is just running it few hours, then yes: but we would =20 > charge few dollars for a free license. > > So, our idea was to provide it for free: the customer will not be =20 > able to run more than 3 concurrent requests, which makes it useless =20= > for a web server, but is fine for a test. If (and he will!) the user =20= > is convinced, then he will buy his license with us and get a =20 > relatively cheap hosting at amazon, by just writing his Lic. number =20= > in the admin interface. > > Another point: what licensing model should we adopt if a user runs =20 > not one instance, but several instances of the same server (to add =20 > temporary extra capacity)? As Ken said I'm not telling you how to run your business, just =20 thinking out loud.... I think the free DE version is a good idea, it is something that can =20 be done relatively easily but in the long run I think you would be =20 better off with the hourly charge model. Have a look at = http://aws.amazon.com/devpay/=20 which gives a bit more info. They have a system of =93product token=94 = =20 and =93user token" to keep people from stealing the code/serial numbers. I don't know what would be involved in making WebDNA work with the =20 Amazon system. You might want to contact them and see what they have =20 to say. Paul=
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