Re: [WebDNA] An alternative to hosting...
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texte = I used to have my own servers here in my back bedroom. For 10 years, I had three Macs: the mail and dns on one, Webstar on another, and Tenon on the third. Both webservers running WebDNA of course. After a casual conversation with one our list colleagues who used hosting, a light bulb went off in my head and as soon as I could, I arranged for all my sites to be moved to a WebDNA host. Suddenly, no more cost of servers and eventual replacements (I had upgraded all three at least once to newer Macs). No more cost of software (not just WebDNA, but all the utilities and the OS). No more agonizing over whether a storm would shut me down (we just had a 26-hour power outage last weekend. Rare, but still, these things happen). No more agonizing over server configurations and time spent trying to be a server admin. No more feelings of being tethered to my current location. No more Timbuktu during vacations to make sure everything is running right. No more wondering if my connection was robust enough. No more worries about home security (fire, theft, etc). No more worries about the dog yanking a power cord out of the wall (i.e., thunderstorms put her into a frenzy). And to top it off -- the big surprise -- the cost of hosting was CHEAPER by a factor of 2 than the T-1 line I had coming into the house. In other words, once I made the switch, I never looked back. Also, are you sure you wouldn't be violating a terms of agreement by hosting a site on your DSL line? Terry >My needs are: > >Commercial hosting w/ scripting language (15GB Space/ 1500GB X-fer/mo) >SSL (Plan on accepting credit cards through gateway) >E-mail w/ Spam filtering (5 accounts) >Image manipulation (ImageMagick, etc.) > > >This is a start-up with very little money. If it becomes profitable >enough to sustain a better connection, and buy a server/etc., Great! >Otherwise, would I rather be out $120 for a year with GoDaddy >hosting, $240 minimum for a year hosting somewhere else with WebDNA, >or would I rather use the DSL connection that I have, pay $135 for >my own copy of WebDNA CE, $20 for an SSL, $10/mo for a static IP, >and host it myself on equipment that is just collecting dust with >open source software until it becomes profitable or dies? > >I am still open to possibilities... I am just trying to save money >right now. A one month old, and an unemployed spouse don't give me >a whole lot of free cash at the end of the month. > > > >Bob Minor wrote: >> Hey Matthew, >> >> I'm curious what you mean by "hosting kills me everytime"? I >>assume this is a non-commercial site, if so then there is no reason >>not to use your static ip dsl. >> >> If this is something that needs to be up 24x7x365, your taking >>credit cards and need to pass PCI testing, security and keeping up >>with the latest hacks, then you should stick with a hosted >>solution. You may not find webdna for $10 a month but I know you >>can find it for as low as $20 a month, but if your "commercial" >>site can't deal with a $120 a year in costs then I think there may >>be something else going on that you'll need to look at. >> >> Are you buying webdna commercial or using the demo product? >> >> Bob Minor >> >> >> >> On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Matthew Bohne wrote: >> >>> I am looking at all of my computer equipment and thinking that I >>>can build myself a web server, throw linux on it, and get a static >>>IP, and I will be all set to run my own web server on my home DSL >>>account. >>> >>> Does anyone have any recommendation, or reasons why I should look >>>at a hosted option, instead? I am trying to get away from >>>GoDaddy, and switch back to WebDNA from PHP, but hosting cost >>>seems to be what kills me every time. >>> >>> So, Recommendations? >>> Computer speed? Memory, etc. >>> Linux Version? >>> Security? >>> Other pitfalls I will have to avoid? >>> >>> Matthew Bohne >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list
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I used to have my own servers here in my back bedroom. For 10 years, I had three Macs: the mail and dns on one, Webstar on another, and Tenon on the third. Both webservers running WebDNA of course. After a casual conversation with one our list colleagues who used hosting, a light bulb went off in my head and as soon as I could, I arranged for all my sites to be moved to a WebDNA host. Suddenly, no more cost of servers and eventual replacements (I had upgraded all three at least once to newer Macs). No more cost of software (not just WebDNA, but all the utilities and the OS). No more agonizing over whether a storm would shut me down (we just had a 26-hour power outage last weekend. Rare, but still, these things happen). No more agonizing over server configurations and time spent trying to be a server admin. No more feelings of being tethered to my current location. No more Timbuktu during vacations to make sure everything is running right. No more wondering if my connection was robust enough. No more worries about home security (fire, theft, etc). No more worries about the dog yanking a power cord out of the wall (i.e., thunderstorms put her into a frenzy). And to top it off -- the big surprise -- the cost of hosting was CHEAPER by a factor of 2 than the T-1 line I had coming into the house. In other words, once I made the switch, I never looked back. Also, are you sure you wouldn't be violating a terms of agreement by hosting a site on your DSL line? Terry >My needs are: > >Commercial hosting w/ scripting language (15GB Space/ 1500GB X-fer/mo) >SSL (Plan on accepting credit cards through gateway) >E-mail w/ Spam filtering (5 accounts) >Image manipulation (ImageMagick, etc.) > > >This is a start-up with very little money. If it becomes profitable >enough to sustain a better connection, and buy a server/etc., Great! >Otherwise, would I rather be out $120 for a year with GoDaddy >hosting, $240 minimum for a year hosting somewhere else with WebDNA, >or would I rather use the DSL connection that I have, pay $135 for >my own copy of WebDNA CE, $20 for an SSL, $10/mo for a static IP, >and host it myself on equipment that is just collecting dust with >open source software until it becomes profitable or dies? > >I am still open to possibilities... I am just trying to save money >right now. A one month old, and an unemployed spouse don't give me >a whole lot of free cash at the end of the month. > > > >Bob Minor wrote: >> Hey Matthew, >> >> I'm curious what you mean by "hosting kills me everytime"? I >>assume this is a non-commercial site, if so then there is no reason >>not to use your static ip dsl. >> >> If this is something that needs to be up 24x7x365, your taking >>credit cards and need to pass PCI testing, security and keeping up >>with the latest hacks, then you should stick with a hosted >>solution. You may not find webdna for $10 a month but I know you >>can find it for as low as $20 a month, but if your "commercial" >>site can't deal with a $120 a year in costs then I think there may >>be something else going on that you'll need to look at. >> >> Are you buying webdna commercial or using the demo product? >> >> Bob Minor >> >> >> >> On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Matthew Bohne wrote: >> >>> I am looking at all of my computer equipment and thinking that I >>>can build myself a web server, throw linux on it, and get a static >>>IP, and I will be all set to run my own web server on my home DSL >>>account. >>> >>> Does anyone have any recommendation, or reasons why I should look >>>at a hosted option, instead? I am trying to get away from >>>GoDaddy, and switch back to WebDNA from PHP, but hosting cost >>>seems to be what kills me every time. >>> >>> So, Recommendations? >>> Computer speed? Memory, etc. >>> Linux Version? >>> Security? >>> Other pitfalls I will have to avoid? >>> >>> Matthew Bohne >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=topics&category=288 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=topics&category=288 >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=topics&category=288 -- Terry Wilson | terry@terryfic.com | http://terryfic.com http://WhosComing.com - a simplified, affordable online reservation system http://TightJacket.com -- stylish protection for your laptop -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attitude is the only difference between ordeal and adventure.
Terry Wilson
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