Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?

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2011


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texte = I had posted that link several hours earlier today. =20 I have already rebuilt the server again trying another distro. I've = found that newer distros come with libssl.so.1.0.0, while this WebDNA = depends on libssl.so.0.9.8 what's the workaround for this? Or do I need a different fcgi? and exactly which apache module does this work better with, fcgid or = fast_cgi? On Nov 3, 2011, at 10:32 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > Aaron, as requested in a previous email, is there an URL where we = could test the problem you mention and post the test code here? and can = you upload the stress2.dna file i provided? i just would like to see = what you describe and be able to check if it is code related, = configuration related or a real problem with your WebDNA build (WebDNA 7 = linux-glibcv3-64-libmysql16 is the version Ken is running on his Debian = 6 box without trouble, as far as i know) >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Nov 4, 2011, at 0:17, aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: >=20 >>> You seem to be repeating the same install over and over=20 >>> again, using the same OS and web server ... which probably=20 >>> means you're making the same install or config errors over=20 >>> and over again, too. >>>=20 >>> If you install v7 on a Debian 5/6 server running lighttpd,=20 >>> according to the step-by-step instructions I posted in this=20 >>> list more than a year ago (and then updated more recently)=20 >>> you might find that it "just works". >>=20 >> If I can't use the server of my choice, why say I can? If I can't, = why not say that I can't? >> This has not been an over and over again install. I rebuilt my VPS = once in the most plain vanilla configuration possible to find the error. = I also followed both Chris and Donavan's instructions to the "T", = neither of which worked because they were not specific to my = configuration or OS/webserver version. I've submitted my exact = configuration on here twice. And these were the ONLY configurations = I've made. So far, no one has pointed out any major errors in this = configuration. In all regards, I got WebDNA 7 to work fairly quickly, = but with a quirk as I discovered. I think it sucks for the whole = community if you take the attitude, "I don't know what you're doing, but = it must be wrong. And sorry I can't help. You should just do it my = way". I don't have your step by step instructions. If I did, I would = have certainly tried it. If you're going to promote WebDNA 7 to work = with a variety of configurations, wouldn't it be nice to actually = provide support for those? Or at least acknowledge that there might = possibly be a bug with a given configuration and .fcgi version. =20 >>=20 >>> So stop wasting your time and get back to work. If you=20 >>> don't want to manage a server why are you screwing around=20 >>> with one? Just hire a host! They don't charge more than=20 >>> $20 or $30 a month, do they? =20 >>> Even if they charge $100 a month that's less than $5 per=20 >>> work day for a 20-day work month. Big deal. Just pay the=20 >>> $5 per day, eliminate the server hassles you don't know how=20 >>> to fix, and get back to your development work already. >>=20 >> Hmm=85root access? That's been pretty indispensable for me. Yeah, = many WebDNA hosts are easily over that for not getting very much. Not = very appealing for clients either when you transfer that cost onto them. = Setting up WebDNA has been the ONLY headache I've EVER had managing = servers. I've managed everything else just fine. =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>=20 >>>> I haven't gotten any real help. >>>=20 >>> You seem to be repeating the same install over and over=20 >>> again, using the same OS and web server ... which probably=20 >>> means you're making the same install or config errors over=20 >>> and over again, too. >>>=20 >>> If you install v7 on a Debian 5/6 server running lighttpd,=20 >>> according to the step-by-step instructions I posted in this=20 >>> list more than a year ago (and then updated more recently)=20 >>> you might find that it "just works". >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> But you know the real issue is that I am a developer, I >>>> don't want to be a server administration. =20 >>>=20 >>> So stop wasting your time and get back to work. If you=20 >>> don't want to manage a server why are you screwing around=20 >>> with one? Just hire a host! They don't charge more than=20 >>> $20 or $30 a month, do they? =20 >>>=20 >>> Even if they charge $100 a month that's less than $5 per=20 >>> work day for a 20-day work month. Big deal. Just pay the=20 >>> $5 per day, eliminate the server hassles you don't know how=20 >>> to fix, and get back to your development work already. >>>=20 >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Stuart Tremain 2011)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Stuart Tremain 2011)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Govinda 2011)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (frank@cwolfe.com 2011)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Matthew Bohne 2011)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Govinda 2011)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2011)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2011)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2011)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Govinda 2011)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Govinda 2011)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2011)
  27. [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
I had posted that link several hours earlier today. =20 I have already rebuilt the server again trying another distro. I've = found that newer distros come with libssl.so.1.0.0, while this WebDNA = depends on libssl.so.0.9.8 what's the workaround for this? Or do I need a different fcgi? and exactly which apache module does this work better with, fcgid or = fast_cgi? On Nov 3, 2011, at 10:32 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > Aaron, as requested in a previous email, is there an URL where we = could test the problem you mention and post the test code here? and can = you upload the stress2.dna file i provided? i just would like to see = what you describe and be able to check if it is code related, = configuration related or a real problem with your WebDNA build (WebDNA 7 = linux-glibcv3-64-libmysql16 is the version Ken is running on his Debian = 6 box without trouble, as far as i know) >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Nov 4, 2011, at 0:17, aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: >=20 >>> You seem to be repeating the same install over and over=20 >>> again, using the same OS and web server ... which probably=20 >>> means you're making the same install or config errors over=20 >>> and over again, too. >>>=20 >>> If you install v7 on a Debian 5/6 server running lighttpd,=20 >>> according to the step-by-step instructions I posted in this=20 >>> list more than a year ago (and then updated more recently)=20 >>> you might find that it "just works". >>=20 >> If I can't use the server of my choice, why say I can? If I can't, = why not say that I can't? >> This has not been an over and over again install. I rebuilt my VPS = once in the most plain vanilla configuration possible to find the error. = I also followed both Chris and Donavan's instructions to the "T", = neither of which worked because they were not specific to my = configuration or OS/webserver version. I've submitted my exact = configuration on here twice. And these were the ONLY configurations = I've made. So far, no one has pointed out any major errors in this = configuration. In all regards, I got WebDNA 7 to work fairly quickly, = but with a quirk as I discovered. I think it sucks for the whole = community if you take the attitude, "I don't know what you're doing, but = it must be wrong. And sorry I can't help. You should just do it my = way". I don't have your step by step instructions. If I did, I would = have certainly tried it. If you're going to promote WebDNA 7 to work = with a variety of configurations, wouldn't it be nice to actually = provide support for those? Or at least acknowledge that there might = possibly be a bug with a given configuration and .fcgi version. =20 >>=20 >>> So stop wasting your time and get back to work. If you=20 >>> don't want to manage a server why are you screwing around=20 >>> with one? Just hire a host! They don't charge more than=20 >>> $20 or $30 a month, do they? =20 >>> Even if they charge $100 a month that's less than $5 per=20 >>> work day for a 20-day work month. Big deal. Just pay the=20 >>> $5 per day, eliminate the server hassles you don't know how=20 >>> to fix, and get back to your development work already. >>=20 >> Hmm=85root access? That's been pretty indispensable for me. Yeah, = many WebDNA hosts are easily over that for not getting very much. Not = very appealing for clients either when you transfer that cost onto them. = Setting up WebDNA has been the ONLY headache I've EVER had managing = servers. I've managed everything else just fine. =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>=20 >>>> I haven't gotten any real help. >>>=20 >>> You seem to be repeating the same install over and over=20 >>> again, using the same OS and web server ... which probably=20 >>> means you're making the same install or config errors over=20 >>> and over again, too. >>>=20 >>> If you install v7 on a Debian 5/6 server running lighttpd,=20 >>> according to the step-by-step instructions I posted in this=20 >>> list more than a year ago (and then updated more recently)=20 >>> you might find that it "just works". >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> But you know the real issue is that I am a developer, I >>>> don't want to be a server administration. =20 >>>=20 >>> So stop wasting your time and get back to work. If you=20 >>> don't want to manage a server why are you screwing around=20 >>> with one? Just hire a host! They don't charge more than=20 >>> $20 or $30 a month, do they? =20 >>>=20 >>> Even if they charge $100 a month that's less than $5 per=20 >>> work day for a 20-day work month. Big deal. Just pay the=20 >>> $5 per day, eliminate the server hassles you don't know how=20 >>> to fix, and get back to your development work already. >>>=20 >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com

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