Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2011
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texte = As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS server with = WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy of the file in the Rackspace = cloud. To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1 minute to take = the "master" server image and put it into production. Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but it looks like a = great way to setup sites for clients now that v7 is available. I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the moment I am only = spending about $10 a month with them while I explore these ideas. On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote: > I think part of your frustration is and will continue to be this: If > you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting server. As > soon as you set up a server, that is all you end up doing (often to > the detriment of development). >=20 > The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone else do your > hosting. I was given the same advice from some of the same people, and > they are very right. Server problems become very close personal > problems. Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your server > depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... and it would be if you > had someone else to manage the server while you develop, or > vice-versa. But a single person trying to balance development, > marketing, and server administration is a great recipe for severe > health problems, outright failure, or both. >=20 > I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides wonderful service. I > have had php hosting through GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, > performance, and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome hosts, > as do several others on the distro. >=20 > Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... But, if you take > anything away from this, take this: If you don't want to be a server > admin, don't set up a hosting server. >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM,
wrote: >> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, and I certainly = hit a high point last night, but this has been a strange few days of = things just breaking down and falling apart around me (friends dying, = relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so on). At any rate, = I still really like WebDNA and just lost my patience. >>=20 >> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 working with = WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) just fine with the same = configuration I was using. I was not able to reproduce the funky = database behavior. >>=20 >> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this build on = Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error. There were no special = configurations with Linode either as far as automatic replicating and so = forth. The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. And = again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, it was a bug in the = behavior of it. >>=20 >> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual hosts in this = environment is intuitive and comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll = give CentOS and Lighhtpd a go. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>=20 >>> Chris, >>>=20 >>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different states. >>>=20 >>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about his >>> testing and observations, which wouldn't make sense if he >>> wants us to help him get webdna working on his system. >>>=20 >>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- and >>> continues to work until we help him figure out what's wrong >>> -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. >>>=20 >>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP access to >>> the server root so we could run our own tests -- in ways we >>> know are correct. Maybe then we could actually determine >>> the cause of the problem, rather than trying to guess at it. >>>=20 >>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out important >>> information about his configuration. You're the one who >>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it: >>>=20 >>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a cloud >>>> server at linode.com... could it be possible your >>>> website (and webdna) are automatically replicated among >>>> several servers? >>>=20 >>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. This >>> could easily be the problem. It explains everything he's >>> been complaining about. >>>=20 >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >>=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS server with = WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy of the file in the Rackspace = cloud. To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1 minute to take = the "master" server image and put it into production. Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but it looks like a = great way to setup sites for clients now that v7 is available. I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the moment I am only = spending about $10 a month with them while I explore these ideas. On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote: > I think part of your frustration is and will continue to be this: If > you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting server. As > soon as you set up a server, that is all you end up doing (often to > the detriment of development). >=20 > The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone else do your > hosting. I was given the same advice from some of the same people, and > they are very right. Server problems become very close personal > problems. Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your server > depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... and it would be if you > had someone else to manage the server while you develop, or > vice-versa. But a single person trying to balance development, > marketing, and server administration is a great recipe for severe > health problems, outright failure, or both. >=20 > I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides wonderful service. I > have had php hosting through GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, > performance, and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome hosts, > as do several others on the distro. >=20 > Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... But, if you take > anything away from this, take this: If you don't want to be a server > admin, don't set up a hosting server. >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, wrote: >> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, and I certainly = hit a high point last night, but this has been a strange few days of = things just breaking down and falling apart around me (friends dying, = relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so on). At any rate, = I still really like WebDNA and just lost my patience. >>=20 >> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 working with = WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) just fine with the same = configuration I was using. I was not able to reproduce the funky = database behavior. >>=20 >> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this build on = Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error. There were no special = configurations with Linode either as far as automatic replicating and so = forth. The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. And = again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, it was a bug in the = behavior of it. >>=20 >> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual hosts in this = environment is intuitive and comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll = give CentOS and Lighhtpd a go. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>=20 >>> Chris, >>>=20 >>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different states. >>>=20 >>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about his >>> testing and observations, which wouldn't make sense if he >>> wants us to help him get webdna working on his system. >>>=20 >>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- and >>> continues to work until we help him figure out what's wrong >>> -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. >>>=20 >>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP access to >>> the server root so we could run our own tests -- in ways we >>> know are correct. Maybe then we could actually determine >>> the cause of the problem, rather than trying to guess at it. >>>=20 >>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out important >>> information about his configuration. You're the one who >>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it: >>>=20 >>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a cloud >>>> server at linode.com... could it be possible your >>>> website (and webdna) are automatically replicated among >>>> several servers? >>>=20 >>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. This >>> could easily be the problem. It explains everything he's >>> been complaining about. >>>=20 >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >>=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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