Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2011
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texte = As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS server with =WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy of the file in the Rackspace =cloud.To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1 minute to take =the "master" server image and put it into production.Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but it looks like a =great way to setup sites for clients now that v7 is available.I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the moment I am only =spending about $10 a month with them while I explore these ideas.On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote:> I think part of your frustration is and will continue to be this: If> you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting server. As> soon as you set up a server, that is all you end up doing (often to> the detriment of development).>=20> The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone else do your> hosting. I was given the same advice from some of the same people, and> they are very right. Server problems become very close personal> problems. Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your server> depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... and it would be if you> had someone else to manage the server while you develop, or> vice-versa. But a single person trying to balance development,> marketing, and server administration is a great recipe for severe> health problems, outright failure, or both.>=20> I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides wonderful service. I> have had php hosting through GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed,> performance, and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome hosts,> as do several others on the distro.>=20> Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... But, if you take> anything away from this, take this: If you don't want to be a server> admin, don't set up a hosting server.>=20>=20> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM,
wrote:>> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, and I certainly =hit a high point last night, but this has been a strange few days of =things just breaking down and falling apart around me (friends dying, =relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so on). At any rate, =I still really like WebDNA and just lost my patience.>>=20>> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 working with =WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) just fine with the same =configuration I was using. I was not able to reproduce the funky =database behavior.>>=20>> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this build on =Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error. There were no special =configurations with Linode either as far as automatic replicating and so =forth. The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. And =again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, it was a bug in the =behavior of it.>>=20>> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual hosts in this =environment is intuitive and comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll =give CentOS and Lighhtpd a go.>>=20>>=20>>=20>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>=20>>> Chris,>>>=20>>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different states.>>>=20>>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about his>>> testing and observations, which wouldn't make sense if he>>> wants us to help him get webdna working on his system.>>>=20>>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- and>>> continues to work until we help him figure out what's wrong>>> -- we cannot do any testing ourselves.>>>=20>>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP access to>>> the server root so we could run our own tests -- in ways we>>> know are correct. Maybe then we could actually determine>>> the cause of the problem, rather than trying to guess at it.>>>=20>>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out important>>> information about his configuration. You're the one who>>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it:>>>=20>>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a cloud>>>> server at linode.com... could it be possible your>>>> website (and webdna) are automatically replicated among>>>> several servers?>>>=20>>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. This>>> could easily be the problem. It explains everything he's>>> been complaining about.>>>=20>>> Sincerely,>>> Kenneth Grome>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS server with =WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy of the file in the Rackspace =cloud.To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1 minute to take =the "master" server image and put it into production.Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but it looks like a =great way to setup sites for clients now that v7 is available.I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the moment I am only =spending about $10 a month with them while I explore these ideas.On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote:> I think part of your frustration is and will continue to be this: If> you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting server. As> soon as you set up a server, that is all you end up doing (often to> the detriment of development).>=20> The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone else do your> hosting. I was given the same advice from some of the same people, and> they are very right. Server problems become very close personal> problems. Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your server> depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... and it would be if you> had someone else to manage the server while you develop, or> vice-versa. But a single person trying to balance development,> marketing, and server administration is a great recipe for severe> health problems, outright failure, or both.>=20> I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides wonderful service. I> have had php hosting through GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed,> performance, and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome hosts,> as do several others on the distro.>=20> Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... But, if you take> anything away from this, take this: If you don't want to be a server> admin, don't set up a hosting server.>=20>=20> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, wrote:>> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, and I certainly =hit a high point last night, but this has been a strange few days of =things just breaking down and falling apart around me (friends dying, =relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so on). At any rate, =I still really like WebDNA and just lost my patience.>>=20>> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 working with =WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) just fine with the same =configuration I was using. I was not able to reproduce the funky =database behavior.>>=20>> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this build on =Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error. There were no special =configurations with Linode either as far as automatic replicating and so =forth. The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. And =again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, it was a bug in the =behavior of it.>>=20>> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual hosts in this =environment is intuitive and comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll =give CentOS and Lighhtpd a go.>>=20>>=20>>=20>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>=20>>> Chris,>>>=20>>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different states.>>>=20>>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about his>>> testing and observations, which wouldn't make sense if he>>> wants us to help him get webdna working on his system.>>>=20>>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- and>>> continues to work until we help him figure out what's wrong>>> -- we cannot do any testing ourselves.>>>=20>>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP access to>>> the server root so we could run our own tests -- in ways we>>> know are correct. Maybe then we could actually determine>>> the cause of the problem, rather than trying to guess at it.>>>=20>>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out important>>> information about his configuration. You're the one who>>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it:>>>=20>>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a cloud>>>> server at linode.com... could it be possible your>>>> website (and webdna) are automatically replicated among>>>> several servers?>>>=20>>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. This>>> could easily be the problem. It explains everything he's>>> been complaining about.>>>=20>>> Sincerely,>>> Kenneth Grome>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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