Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2011
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texte = I think part of your frustration is and will continue to be this: If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a server, that is all you end up doing (often to the detriment of development). The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from some of the same people, and they are very right. Server problems become very close personal problems. Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your server depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... and it would be if you had someone else to manage the server while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single person trying to balance development, marketing, and server administration is a great recipe for severe health problems, outright failure, or both. I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides wonderful service. I have had php hosting through GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance, and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome hosts, as do several others on the distro. Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... But, if you take anything away from this, take this: If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting server. On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM,
wrote: > Hey guys. =A0Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, and I certainly hit= a high point last night, but this has been a strange few days of things ju= st breaking down and falling apart around me (friends dying, relationships = ending, vehicles breaking down, and so on). =A0At any rate, I still really = like WebDNA and just lost my patience. > > Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 working with WebDN= A7 (replacing the libssl.so file) just fine with the same configuration I w= as using. =A0I was not able to reproduce the funky database behavior. > > So I do believe that there is a real problem with this build on Ubuntu 10= .4, and was not due to user error. =A0There were no special configurations = with Linode either as far as automatic replicating and so forth. =A0The con= figuration I provided was completely verbatim. =A0And again, the problem wa= sn't "installing" WebDNA, it was a bug in the behavior of it. > > I like using Ubuntu + Apache. =A0Setting up virtual hosts in this environ= ment is intuitive and comfortable for me. =A0Next time around, I'll give Ce= ntOS and Lighhtpd a go. > > > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> It seems his db's are being replicated in different states. >> >> Either that or he is not telling us everything about his >> testing and observations, which wouldn't make sense if he >> wants us to help him get webdna working on his system. >> >> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- and >> continues to work until we help him figure out what's wrong >> -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. >> >> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP access to >> the server root so we could run our own tests -- in ways we >> know are correct. =A0Maybe then we could actually determine >> the cause of the problem, rather than trying to guess at it. >> >> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out important >> information about his configuration. =A0You're the one who >> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it: >> >>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a cloud >>> server at linode.com... could it be possible your >>> website (and webdna) are automatically =A0replicated among >>> several servers? >> >> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. =A0This >> could easily be the problem. =A0It explains everything he's >> been complaining about. >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >
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I think part of your frustration is and will continue to be this: If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a server, that is all you end up doing (often to the detriment of development). The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from some of the same people, and they are very right. Server problems become very close personal problems. Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your server depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... and it would be if you had someone else to manage the server while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single person trying to balance development, marketing, and server administration is a great recipe for severe health problems, outright failure, or both. I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides wonderful service. I have had php hosting through GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance, and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome hosts, as do several others on the distro. Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... But, if you take anything away from this, take this: If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting server. On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, wrote: > Hey guys. =A0Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, and I certainly hit= a high point last night, but this has been a strange few days of things ju= st breaking down and falling apart around me (friends dying, relationships = ending, vehicles breaking down, and so on). =A0At any rate, I still really = like WebDNA and just lost my patience. > > Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 working with WebDN= A7 (replacing the libssl.so file) just fine with the same configuration I w= as using. =A0I was not able to reproduce the funky database behavior. > > So I do believe that there is a real problem with this build on Ubuntu 10= .4, and was not due to user error. =A0There were no special configurations = with Linode either as far as automatic replicating and so forth. =A0The con= figuration I provided was completely verbatim. =A0And again, the problem wa= sn't "installing" WebDNA, it was a bug in the behavior of it. > > I like using Ubuntu + Apache. =A0Setting up virtual hosts in this environ= ment is intuitive and comfortable for me. =A0Next time around, I'll give Ce= ntOS and Lighhtpd a go. > > > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> It seems his db's are being replicated in different states. >> >> Either that or he is not telling us everything about his >> testing and observations, which wouldn't make sense if he >> wants us to help him get webdna working on his system. >> >> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- and >> continues to work until we help him figure out what's wrong >> -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. >> >> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP access to >> the server root so we could run our own tests -- in ways we >> know are correct. =A0Maybe then we could actually determine >> the cause of the problem, rather than trying to guess at it. >> >> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out important >> information about his configuration. =A0You're the one who >> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it: >> >>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a cloud >>> server at linode.com... could it be possible your >>> website (and webdna) are automatically =A0replicated among >>> several servers? >> >> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. =A0This >> could easily be the problem. =A0It explains everything he's >> been complaining about. >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >
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