Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA restart script

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2015


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texte = --001a113d154e85e3a7050d19d390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt, What versions of apache and openSSL are you running on your DNA6.2/centOS6.3 box? -Dan Strong http://DanStrong.com On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Terry Wilson wrote: > I also have the mail problem a couple of times a year. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, "Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi " < > matt@psiprime.com> wrote: > > > > Donovan, > > > > Most of my servers are stable all year long, but I have one or two bad > apples that hiccup and give me the "template not found" error. It always > aggravates me that parts of my CMS will run fine, but only one or two pag= es > say they are not found. Even though the WebDNA Monitor says the engine i= s > running, I stop it and restart it to solve this issue. > > > > Other than the "template not found" issue, there's another issue that > goes unnoticed until it's way too late. Emails get stuck in the > EMailFolder without any other hint of a problem. When this happens, it > happens to all websites on the server all at once. A WebDNA stop/start > does not solve this issue, so I have to reboot the server. This has been= a > problem for me since 1997 when I started using WebDNA. Every server I've > ever had, from WebCat 3 on RedHat 3, WebCat 4 on RedHat 4, WebDNA 5 on > RedHat 5, WebDNA 6 on RedHat 5 and CentOS 6.2/6.3/6.4 have all randomly > decided to one day trap all the emails. > > > > Well, in early 2014 a mission critical server for my utility company > client stopped sending emails. It only took us about 18 hours to notice, > but they were livid. So I developed a bunch of triggers, and set up a > dedicated server just to ping every one of my production servers. Now, > twice a day, all at once, I get a series of emails from all the servers > sent to my smartphone. I know everything is working as long as I see eve= ry > email. It turns out that this is a really good DNS and network check too= . > > > > Now, the other issue, and the one you are wondering about with the > command not working started happening in November 2014 with one of the > servers. This one server is a VPS from GoDaddy. I think it started righ= t > after they upgraded it from CentOS 6.3 to 6.4. This server is running th= e > WebDNA 6.? Pre-Gold build you gave me in the summer of 2013. > > > > I have a form page for uploading images. Once submitted the script run= s > this command: > > [text]garbage=3D[Shell scriptid=3Djr4newslettersimages][/Shell][/text] > > > > Normally the images are processed through ImageMagick and we see them o= n > he screen. But several times a day since November the images do not > upload. Here's the script that's getting called: > > > > "[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [smThumb]x[smThumb] > "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize > [smThumb]x[smThumb] +profile "*" > "../../../newsletters/images/thumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/un= url][!] > > [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [medThumb]x[medThumb] > "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize > [medThumb]x[medThumb] +profile "*" > "../../../newsletters/images/medThumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][= /unurl][!] > > [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] > "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize > [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] +profile "*" > "../../../newsletters/images/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl] > > > > Of course that script has not changed in years, so that's not the > problem. Just like the "template not found" issue, a stop/start of the > engine fixes this. > > > > I assume it's some strange disconnect with the OS 6.3 to 6.4 upgrade, > perhaps a library. I also assume it will go away when I eventually upgra= de > to WebDNA 8. > > In the mean time I just have a cron job running this script every hour > during normal business hours: > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl stop > > sleep 5 > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl start > > > > I love my cats, but I always seem to find new ways to skin them. ;-) > > > > -Matt > > > > > > > >> On 1/20/2015 9:33 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > >> Hi Matt, > >> I have experienced the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error, cur= rently only on my > 6.2 Server boxes. It is rare (few times a year), so when it happens I jus= t > do a manual restart. I=E2=80=99m not sure what you mean by "commands stop > working=E2=80=9D. I haven=E2=80=99t experienced that. > >> > >> I have other (significant traffic) servers (6.3 and 8.0 Server > versions) that have uptime=E2=80=99s over a year. That=E2=80=99s not to s= ay that the > =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error couldn=E2=80=99t happen on tho= se boxes someday. If you > are experiencing these things regularly, it would be interesting to find > out what is causing the issues. > >> > >> I don=E2=80=99t think switching to FastCGI is going to change your =E2= =80=9Cstability > issues=E2=80=9D other than you won=E2=80=99t need a cron job if you have = a server that is > crashing. The engine is pretty much the same between Server and FastCGI, > only FastCGI restarts itself inherently, without the need of a WebDNA > Monitor app. If you have a server that is crashing, you may not notice > things as much, but the event would still be recorded.. and things like > sessions, or page loads could still be interrupted. The =E2=80=9Ctemplat= e not > found=E2=80=9D error seems an error other than crashing. > >> > >> If I had to guess, this error has something to do with code... Maybe > not bad code necessarily, but maybe task-oriented code that WebDNA fails = to > execute through in an ideal/complete fashion. I think the answer would > eventually come in a keen eye on the WebDNA and Apache logs, and trying t= o > isolate an exact time when WebDNA stops recognizing a file. > >> > >> Anyway, I=E2=80=99d be interested if you find anything, as I was aware= of the > =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found" issue, but it was never a priority because o= f the > rarity of the event. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Donovan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:23 AM, Matthew Perosi wrote= : > >>> > >>> This is exactly why I have to restart mine every once in a while. > WebDNA says it's running, but some commands stop working. > >>> > >>> Sometimes pages give me a "template not found" type error while other= s > are fine. > >>> > >>> On one of my servers running CentOS 6.3 and webDNA 6.2 I have a cron > job restarting WebDNA every 2 hours during the work day because calls to > ImageMagic stop working at random, but everything else works. > >>> > >>> A cron restart prevents it all. I'm looking forward to the inevitable > switch to fastcgi to be free of these stability issues. > >>> > >>> Matt > >>> > >>> Sent from my European iPhone > >>> > >>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Stuart Tremain > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Chris does the app just ping WebDNA or does it check if it is workin= g > ie checks that it is processing commands etc ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards > >>>> > >>>> Stuart Tremain > >>>> IDFK Web Developments > >>>> AUSTRALIA > >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 6:17 pm, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Check that WebDNAMonitor is up and running: this small application > monitors WebDNA server and restart it if necessary. > >>>>> > >>>>> - chris > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:56, Stuart Tremain > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Every now and then WebDNA stops working =E2=80=A6.. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kind regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stuart Tremain > >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments > >>>>>> AUSTRALIA > >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 5:37 pm, Dan Strong wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Why do you ask? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>>> Sent from phone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Dan Strong > >>>>>>> http://DanStrong.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2015 7:47 PM, "Stuart Tremain" > wrote: > >>>>>>> I saw a couple of people are restarting WebDNA on a regular basis > using CRON on Linux. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> May I ask as to why you feel this is necessary ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kind regards > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Stuart Tremain > >>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments > >>>>>>> AUSTRALIA > >>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>>>>>> the mailing list . > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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T= o > unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: > http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>>>> the mailing list . > >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>>> the mailing list . > >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>> the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Matthew A Perosi > >> Corporate Consultant > >> Mobile Marketing Expert > >> Senior Web Developer > >> SEO Analyst & Educator > >> matt@psiprime.com > >> > >> Psi Prime, Inc. > >> 323 Union Blvd. > >> Totowa, NJ 07512 > >> > >> Direct: 888.872.0274 > >> Fax: 888.488.5924 > >> > >> http://www.perosi.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --001a113d154e85e3a7050d19d390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

M= att,

What versi= ons of apache and openSSL are you running on your DNA6.2/centOS6.3 box?

=


On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Terry Wilso= n <terry@terryfic.com> wrote:
I also have the mail problem a couple of times a year.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, "Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi &qu= ot; <matt@psiprime.com> wrot= e:
>
> Donovan,
>
> Most of my servers are stable all year long, but I have one or two bad= apples that hiccup and give me the "template not found" error. I= t always aggravates me that parts of my CMS will run fine, but only one or = two pages say they are not found.=C2=A0 Even though the WebDNA Monitor says= the engine is running, I stop it and restart it to solve this issue.
>
> Other than the "template not found" issue, there's anoth= er issue that goes unnoticed until it's way too late.=C2=A0 Emails get = stuck in the EMailFolder without any other hint of a problem.=C2=A0 When th= is happens, it happens to all websites on the server all at once.=C2=A0 A W= ebDNA stop/start does not solve this issue, so I have to reboot the server.= =C2=A0 This has been a problem for me since 1997 when I started using WebDN= A.=C2=A0 Every server I've ever had, from WebCat 3 on RedHat 3, WebCat = 4 on RedHat 4, WebDNA 5 on RedHat 5, WebDNA 6 on RedHat 5 and CentOS 6.2/6.= 3/6.4 have all randomly decided to one day trap all the emails.
>
> Well, in early 2014 a mission critical server for my utility company c= lient stopped sending emails.=C2=A0 It only took us about 18 hours to notic= e, but they were livid.=C2=A0 So I developed a bunch of triggers, and set u= p a dedicated server just to ping every one of my production servers.=C2=A0= Now, twice a day, all at once, I get a series of emails from all the serve= rs sent to my smartphone.=C2=A0 I know everything is working as long as I s= ee every email.=C2=A0 It turns out that this is a really good DNS and netwo= rk check too.
>
> Now, the other issue, and the one you are wondering about with the com= mand not working started happening in November 2014 with one of the servers= .=C2=A0 This one server is a VPS from GoDaddy.=C2=A0 I think it started rig= ht after they upgraded it from CentOS 6.3 to 6.4.=C2=A0 This server is runn= ing the WebDNA 6.? Pre-Gold build you gave me in the summer of 2013.
>
> I have a form page for uploading images.=C2=A0 Once submitted the scri= pt runs this command:
> [text]garbage=3D[Shell scriptid=3Djr4newslettersimages][/Shell][/text]=
>
> Normally the images are processed through ImageMagick and we see them = on he screen.=C2=A0 But several times a day since November the images do no= t upload.=C2=A0 Here's the script that's getting called:
>
> "[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [smThumb]x[smThumb] "= ;../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [smThumb]= x[smThumb] +profile "*" "../../../newsletters/images/thumb/[= uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl][!]
> [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [medThumb]x[medThumb]= "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [me= dThumb]x[medThumb] +profile "*" "../../../newsletters/images= /medThumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl][!]
> [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] &= quot;../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [lgTh= umb]x[lgThumb] +profile "*" "../../../newsletters/images/[up= loadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl]
>
> Of course that script has not changed in years, so that's not the = problem.=C2=A0 Just like the "template not found" issue, a stop/s= tart of the engine fixes this.
>
> I assume it's some strange disconnect with the OS 6.3 to 6.4 upgra= de, perhaps a library.=C2=A0 I also assume it will go away when I eventuall= y upgrade to WebDNA 8.
> In the mean time I just have a cron job running this script every hour= during normal business hours:
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl stop
> sleep 5
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl start
>
> I love my cats, but I always seem to find new ways to skin them. ;-) >
> -Matt
>
>
>
>> On 1/20/2015 9:33 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>> I have experienced the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error,= currently only on my 6.2 Server boxes. It is rare (few times a year), so w= hen it happens I just do a manual restart. I=E2=80=99m not sure what you me= an by "commands stop working=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t experie= nced that.
>>
>> I have other (significant traffic) servers (6.3 and 8.0 Server ver= sions) that have uptime=E2=80=99s over a year. That=E2=80=99s not to say th= at the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error couldn=E2=80=99t happen o= n those boxes someday. If you are experiencing these things regularly, it w= ould be interesting to find out what is causing the issues.
>>
>> I don=E2=80=99t think switching to FastCGI is going to change your= =E2=80=9Cstability issues=E2=80=9D other than you won=E2=80=99t need a cro= n job if you have a server that is crashing. The engine is pretty much the = same between Server and FastCGI, only FastCGI restarts itself inherently, w= ithout the need of a WebDNA Monitor app. If you have a server that is crash= ing, you may not notice things as much, but the event would still be record= ed.. and things like sessions, or page loads could still be interrupted.=C2= =A0 The =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error seems an error other tha= n crashing.
>>
>> If I had to guess, this error has something to do with code... May= be not bad code necessarily, but maybe task-oriented code that WebDNA fails= to execute through in an ideal/complete fashion. I think the answer would = eventually come in a keen eye on the WebDNA and Apache logs, and trying to = isolate an exact time when WebDNA stops recognizing a file.
>>
>> Anyway, I=E2=80=99d be interested if you find anything, as I was a= ware of the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found" issue, but it was never a pri= ority because of the rarity of the event.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Donovan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:23 AM, Matthew Perosi <matt@psiprime.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is exactly why I have to restart mine every once in a whi= le. WebDNA says it's running, but some commands stop working.
>>>
>>> Sometimes pages give me a "template not found" type = error while others are fine.
>>>
>>> On one of my servers running CentOS 6.3 and webDNA 6.2 I have = a cron job restarting WebDNA every 2 hours during the work day because call= s to ImageMagic stop working at random, but everything else works.
>>>
>>> A cron restart prevents it all. I'm looking forward to the= inevitable switch to fastcgi to be free of these stability issues.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> Sent from my European iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris does the app just ping WebDNA or does it check if it= is working ie checks that it is processing commands etc ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 6:17 pm, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Check that WebDNAMonitor is up and running: this small= application monitors WebDNA server and restart it if necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> - chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:56, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every now and then WebDNA stops working =E2=80=A6.= .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>>> webdna@idfk.= com.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 5:37 pm, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you ask?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Sent from phone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Dan Strong
>>>>>>> http://DanStrong.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2015 7:47 PM, "Stuart Tremain&= quot; <webdna@idfk.com.au> = wrote:
>>>>>>> I saw a couple of people are restarting WebDNA= on a regular basis using CRON on Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May I ask as to why you feel this is necessary= ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>>>> webdna@i= dfk.com.au
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> --
>> Matthew A Perosi
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>>
>> Psi Prime, Inc.
>> 323 Union Blvd.
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>>
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  32. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA restart script (Dan Strong 2015)
  33. [WebDNA] WebDNA restart script (Stuart Tremain 2015)
--001a113d154e85e3a7050d19d390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt, What versions of apache and openSSL are you running on your DNA6.2/centOS6.3 box? -Dan Strong http://DanStrong.com On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Terry Wilson wrote: > I also have the mail problem a couple of times a year. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, "Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi " < > matt@psiprime.com> wrote: > > > > Donovan, > > > > Most of my servers are stable all year long, but I have one or two bad > apples that hiccup and give me the "template not found" error. It always > aggravates me that parts of my CMS will run fine, but only one or two pag= es > say they are not found. Even though the WebDNA Monitor says the engine i= s > running, I stop it and restart it to solve this issue. > > > > Other than the "template not found" issue, there's another issue that > goes unnoticed until it's way too late. Emails get stuck in the > EMailFolder without any other hint of a problem. When this happens, it > happens to all websites on the server all at once. A WebDNA stop/start > does not solve this issue, so I have to reboot the server. This has been= a > problem for me since 1997 when I started using WebDNA. Every server I've > ever had, from WebCat 3 on RedHat 3, WebCat 4 on RedHat 4, WebDNA 5 on > RedHat 5, WebDNA 6 on RedHat 5 and CentOS 6.2/6.3/6.4 have all randomly > decided to one day trap all the emails. > > > > Well, in early 2014 a mission critical server for my utility company > client stopped sending emails. It only took us about 18 hours to notice, > but they were livid. So I developed a bunch of triggers, and set up a > dedicated server just to ping every one of my production servers. Now, > twice a day, all at once, I get a series of emails from all the servers > sent to my smartphone. I know everything is working as long as I see eve= ry > email. It turns out that this is a really good DNS and network check too= . > > > > Now, the other issue, and the one you are wondering about with the > command not working started happening in November 2014 with one of the > servers. This one server is a VPS from GoDaddy. I think it started righ= t > after they upgraded it from CentOS 6.3 to 6.4. This server is running th= e > WebDNA 6.? Pre-Gold build you gave me in the summer of 2013. > > > > I have a form page for uploading images. Once submitted the script run= s > this command: > > [text]garbage=3D[Shell scriptid=3Djr4newslettersimages][/Shell][/text] > > > > Normally the images are processed through ImageMagick and we see them o= n > he screen. But several times a day since November the images do not > upload. Here's the script that's getting called: > > > > "[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [smThumb]x[smThumb] > "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize > [smThumb]x[smThumb] +profile "*" > "../../../newsletters/images/thumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/un= url][!] > > [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [medThumb]x[medThumb] > "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize > [medThumb]x[medThumb] +profile "*" > "../../../newsletters/images/medThumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][= /unurl][!] > > [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] > "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize > [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] +profile "*" > "../../../newsletters/images/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl] > > > > Of course that script has not changed in years, so that's not the > problem. Just like the "template not found" issue, a stop/start of the > engine fixes this. > > > > I assume it's some strange disconnect with the OS 6.3 to 6.4 upgrade, > perhaps a library. I also assume it will go away when I eventually upgra= de > to WebDNA 8. > > In the mean time I just have a cron job running this script every hour > during normal business hours: > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl stop > > sleep 5 > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl start > > > > I love my cats, but I always seem to find new ways to skin them. ;-) > > > > -Matt > > > > > > > >> On 1/20/2015 9:33 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > >> Hi Matt, > >> I have experienced the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error, cur= rently only on my > 6.2 Server boxes. It is rare (few times a year), so when it happens I jus= t > do a manual restart. I=E2=80=99m not sure what you mean by "commands stop > working=E2=80=9D. I haven=E2=80=99t experienced that. > >> > >> I have other (significant traffic) servers (6.3 and 8.0 Server > versions) that have uptime=E2=80=99s over a year. That=E2=80=99s not to s= ay that the > =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error couldn=E2=80=99t happen on tho= se boxes someday. If you > are experiencing these things regularly, it would be interesting to find > out what is causing the issues. > >> > >> I don=E2=80=99t think switching to FastCGI is going to change your =E2= =80=9Cstability > issues=E2=80=9D other than you won=E2=80=99t need a cron job if you have = a server that is > crashing. The engine is pretty much the same between Server and FastCGI, > only FastCGI restarts itself inherently, without the need of a WebDNA > Monitor app. If you have a server that is crashing, you may not notice > things as much, but the event would still be recorded.. and things like > sessions, or page loads could still be interrupted. The =E2=80=9Ctemplat= e not > found=E2=80=9D error seems an error other than crashing. > >> > >> If I had to guess, this error has something to do with code... Maybe > not bad code necessarily, but maybe task-oriented code that WebDNA fails = to > execute through in an ideal/complete fashion. I think the answer would > eventually come in a keen eye on the WebDNA and Apache logs, and trying t= o > isolate an exact time when WebDNA stops recognizing a file. > >> > >> Anyway, I=E2=80=99d be interested if you find anything, as I was aware= of the > =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found" issue, but it was never a priority because o= f the > rarity of the event. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Donovan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:23 AM, Matthew Perosi wrote= : > >>> > >>> This is exactly why I have to restart mine every once in a while. > WebDNA says it's running, but some commands stop working. > >>> > >>> Sometimes pages give me a "template not found" type error while other= s > are fine. > >>> > >>> On one of my servers running CentOS 6.3 and webDNA 6.2 I have a cron > job restarting WebDNA every 2 hours during the work day because calls to > ImageMagic stop working at random, but everything else works. > >>> > >>> A cron restart prevents it all. I'm looking forward to the inevitable > switch to fastcgi to be free of these stability issues. > >>> > >>> Matt > >>> > >>> Sent from my European iPhone > >>> > >>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Stuart Tremain > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Chris does the app just ping WebDNA or does it check if it is workin= g > ie checks that it is processing commands etc ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards > >>>> > >>>> Stuart Tremain > >>>> IDFK Web Developments > >>>> AUSTRALIA > >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 6:17 pm, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Check that WebDNAMonitor is up and running: this small application > monitors WebDNA server and restart it if necessary. > >>>>> > >>>>> - chris > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:56, Stuart Tremain > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Every now and then WebDNA stops working =E2=80=A6.. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kind regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stuart Tremain > >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments > >>>>>> AUSTRALIA > >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 5:37 pm, Dan Strong wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Why do you ask? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>>>> Sent from phone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Dan Strong > >>>>>>> http://DanStrong.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2015 7:47 PM, "Stuart Tremain" > wrote: > >>>>>>> I saw a couple of people are restarting WebDNA on a regular basis > using CRON on Linux. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> May I ask as to why you feel this is necessary ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kind regards > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Stuart Tremain > >>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments > >>>>>>> AUSTRALIA > >>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>>>>>> the mailing list . > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This > message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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T= o > unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: > http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>>>> the mailing list . > >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>>> the mailing list . > >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >>> the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > >> the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Matthew A Perosi > >> Corporate Consultant > >> Mobile Marketing Expert > >> Senior Web Developer > >> SEO Analyst & Educator > >> matt@psiprime.com > >> > >> Psi Prime, Inc. > >> 323 Union Blvd. > >> Totowa, NJ 07512 > >> > >> Direct: 888.872.0274 > >> Fax: 888.488.5924 > >> > >> http://www.perosi.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --001a113d154e85e3a7050d19d390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

M= att,

What versi= ons of apache and openSSL are you running on your DNA6.2/centOS6.3 box?

=


On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Terry Wilso= n <terry@terryfic.com> wrote:
I also have the mail problem a couple of times a year.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, "Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi &qu= ot; <matt@psiprime.com> wrot= e:
>
> Donovan,
>
> Most of my servers are stable all year long, but I have one or two bad= apples that hiccup and give me the "template not found" error. I= t always aggravates me that parts of my CMS will run fine, but only one or = two pages say they are not found.=C2=A0 Even though the WebDNA Monitor says= the engine is running, I stop it and restart it to solve this issue.
>
> Other than the "template not found" issue, there's anoth= er issue that goes unnoticed until it's way too late.=C2=A0 Emails get = stuck in the EMailFolder without any other hint of a problem.=C2=A0 When th= is happens, it happens to all websites on the server all at once.=C2=A0 A W= ebDNA stop/start does not solve this issue, so I have to reboot the server.= =C2=A0 This has been a problem for me since 1997 when I started using WebDN= A.=C2=A0 Every server I've ever had, from WebCat 3 on RedHat 3, WebCat = 4 on RedHat 4, WebDNA 5 on RedHat 5, WebDNA 6 on RedHat 5 and CentOS 6.2/6.= 3/6.4 have all randomly decided to one day trap all the emails.
>
> Well, in early 2014 a mission critical server for my utility company c= lient stopped sending emails.=C2=A0 It only took us about 18 hours to notic= e, but they were livid.=C2=A0 So I developed a bunch of triggers, and set u= p a dedicated server just to ping every one of my production servers.=C2=A0= Now, twice a day, all at once, I get a series of emails from all the serve= rs sent to my smartphone.=C2=A0 I know everything is working as long as I s= ee every email.=C2=A0 It turns out that this is a really good DNS and netwo= rk check too.
>
> Now, the other issue, and the one you are wondering about with the com= mand not working started happening in November 2014 with one of the servers= .=C2=A0 This one server is a VPS from GoDaddy.=C2=A0 I think it started rig= ht after they upgraded it from CentOS 6.3 to 6.4.=C2=A0 This server is runn= ing the WebDNA 6.? Pre-Gold build you gave me in the summer of 2013.
>
> I have a form page for uploading images.=C2=A0 Once submitted the scri= pt runs this command:
> [text]garbage=3D[Shell scriptid=3Djr4newslettersimages][/Shell][/text]=
>
> Normally the images are processed through ImageMagick and we see them = on he screen.=C2=A0 But several times a day since November the images do no= t upload.=C2=A0 Here's the script that's getting called:
>
> "[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [smThumb]x[smThumb] "= ;../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [smThumb]= x[smThumb] +profile "*" "../../../newsletters/images/thumb/[= uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl][!]
> [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [medThumb]x[medThumb]= "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [me= dThumb]x[medThumb] +profile "*" "../../../newsletters/images= /medThumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl][!]
> [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] &= quot;../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [lgTh= umb]x[lgThumb] +profile "*" "../../../newsletters/images/[up= loadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl]
>
> Of course that script has not changed in years, so that's not the = problem.=C2=A0 Just like the "template not found" issue, a stop/s= tart of the engine fixes this.
>
> I assume it's some strange disconnect with the OS 6.3 to 6.4 upgra= de, perhaps a library.=C2=A0 I also assume it will go away when I eventuall= y upgrade to WebDNA 8.
> In the mean time I just have a cron job running this script every hour= during normal business hours:
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl stop
> sleep 5
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl start
>
> I love my cats, but I always seem to find new ways to skin them. ;-) >
> -Matt
>
>
>
>> On 1/20/2015 9:33 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>> I have experienced the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error,= currently only on my 6.2 Server boxes. It is rare (few times a year), so w= hen it happens I just do a manual restart. I=E2=80=99m not sure what you me= an by "commands stop working=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t experie= nced that.
>>
>> I have other (significant traffic) servers (6.3 and 8.0 Server ver= sions) that have uptime=E2=80=99s over a year. That=E2=80=99s not to say th= at the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error couldn=E2=80=99t happen o= n those boxes someday. If you are experiencing these things regularly, it w= ould be interesting to find out what is causing the issues.
>>
>> I don=E2=80=99t think switching to FastCGI is going to change your= =E2=80=9Cstability issues=E2=80=9D other than you won=E2=80=99t need a cro= n job if you have a server that is crashing. The engine is pretty much the = same between Server and FastCGI, only FastCGI restarts itself inherently, w= ithout the need of a WebDNA Monitor app. If you have a server that is crash= ing, you may not notice things as much, but the event would still be record= ed.. and things like sessions, or page loads could still be interrupted.=C2= =A0 The =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error seems an error other tha= n crashing.
>>
>> If I had to guess, this error has something to do with code... May= be not bad code necessarily, but maybe task-oriented code that WebDNA fails= to execute through in an ideal/complete fashion. I think the answer would = eventually come in a keen eye on the WebDNA and Apache logs, and trying to = isolate an exact time when WebDNA stops recognizing a file.
>>
>> Anyway, I=E2=80=99d be interested if you find anything, as I was a= ware of the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found" issue, but it was never a pri= ority because of the rarity of the event.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Donovan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:23 AM, Matthew Perosi <matt@psiprime.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is exactly why I have to restart mine every once in a whi= le. WebDNA says it's running, but some commands stop working.
>>>
>>> Sometimes pages give me a "template not found" type = error while others are fine.
>>>
>>> On one of my servers running CentOS 6.3 and webDNA 6.2 I have = a cron job restarting WebDNA every 2 hours during the work day because call= s to ImageMagic stop working at random, but everything else works.
>>>
>>> A cron restart prevents it all. I'm looking forward to the= inevitable switch to fastcgi to be free of these stability issues.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> Sent from my European iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris does the app just ping WebDNA or does it check if it= is working ie checks that it is processing commands etc ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 6:17 pm, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Check that WebDNAMonitor is up and running: this small= application monitors WebDNA server and restart it if necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> - chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:56, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every now and then WebDNA stops working =E2=80=A6.= .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>>> webdna@idfk.= com.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 5:37 pm, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you ask?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Sent from phone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Dan Strong
>>>>>>> http://DanStrong.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2015 7:47 PM, "Stuart Tremain&= quot; <webdna@idfk.com.au> = wrote:
>>>>>>> I saw a couple of people are restarting WebDNA= on a regular basis using CRON on Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May I ask as to why you feel this is necessary= ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>>>> webdna@i= dfk.com.au
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> --
>> Matthew A Perosi
>> Corporate Consultant
>> Mobile Marketing Expert
>> Senior Web Developer
>> SEO Analyst & Educator
>> matt@psiprime.com
>>
>> Psi Prime, Inc.
>> 323 Union Blvd.
>> Totowa, NJ 07512
>>
>> Direct:=C2=A0 = 888.872.0274
>> Fax:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0888.488.5924
>>
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