Matt,
What versions of apache and openSSL are you running on your DNA6.2/centOS6.3 box?
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Terry Wilson <terry@terryfic.com> wrote:
I also have the mail problem a couple of times a year.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, "Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi " <matt@psiprime.com> wrote:
>
> Donovan,
>
> Most of my servers are stable all year long, but I have one or two bad apples that hiccup and give me the "template not found" error. It always aggravates =me that parts of my CMS will run fine, but only one or two pages say they are not found.=C2=A0 Even though the WebDNA Monito=r says the engine is running, I stop it and restart it to solve this issue.
>
> Other than the "template not found" issue, t=here's another issue that goes unnoticed until it's way too late.=C2=A0 Emails get stuck in the EMailFolder without any other hint of a problem.=C2=A0 When this happens, it happen=s to all websites on the server all at once.=C2=A0 A WebDNA stop/start does not solve this issue, so I have to reboot the server.=C2=A0 This has been a problem for me sin=ce 1997 when I started using WebDNA.=C2=A0 Every server I'=ve ever had, from WebCat 3 on RedHat 3, WebCat 4 on RedHat 4, WebDNA 5 on RedHat 5, WebDNA 6 on RedHat 5 and CentOS 6.2/6.3/6.4 have all randomly decided to one day trap all the emails.
>
> Well, in early 2014 a mission critical server for my utility company client stopped sending emails.=C2=A0 It only took us about 18 hours to notice, but they were livid.=C2=A0 So I developed a bunch of triggers, and set up= a dedicated server just to ping every one of my production servers.=C2=A0 Now, twice a day, all at once, I get a serie=s of emails from all the servers sent to my smartphone.=C2=A0= I know everything is working as long as I see every email.=C2=A0 It turns out that this is a really good DNS an=d network check too.
>
> Now, the other issue, and the one you are wondering about with the command not working started happening in November 2014 with one of the servers.=C2=A0 This one serve=r is a VPS from GoDaddy.=C2=A0 I think it started right after they upgraded it from CentOS 6.3 to 6.4.=C2=A0 This server =is running the WebDNA 6.? Pre-Gold build you gave me in the summer of 2013.
>
> I have a form page for uploading images.=C2=A0 Once submitted the script runs this command:
> [text]garbage=3D[Shell scriptid=3Djr4newslettersimages][/Shell][/text]
>
> Normally the images are processed through ImageMagick and we see them on he screen.=C2=A0 But several times a day since November the images do not upload.=C2=A0 Here's the script that's getting called:
>
> "[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [smThumb]x[smThumb] "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]&qu=ot; -resize [smThumb]x[smThumb] +profile "*""../../../newsletters/images/thumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_end=ing][/unurl][!]
> [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [medThumb]x[medThumb] "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]&qu=ot; -resize [medThumb]x[medThumb] +profile "*""../../../newsletters/images/medThumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_=ending][/unurl][!]
> [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]&qu=ot; -resize [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] +profile "*" "../../../newsletters/images/[uploadedimg]"[unurl=][line_ending][/unurl]
>
> Of course that script has not changed in years, so that's not the problem.=C2=A0 Just like the "templ=ate not found" issue, a stop/start of the engine fixes this. >
> I assume it's some strange disconnect with the OS 6.3 to 6.4 upgrade, perhaps a library.=C2=A0 I also assume =it will go away when I eventually upgrade to WebDNA 8.
> In the mean time I just have a cron job running this script every hour during normal business hours:
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl stop
> sleep 5
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl start
>
> I love my cats, but I always seem to find new ways to skin them. ;-)
>
> -Matt
>
>
>
>> On 1/20/2015 9:33 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>> I have experienced the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found==E2=80=9D error, currently only on my 6.2 Server boxes. It is rare (few times a year), so when it happens I just do a manual restart. I=E2=80=99m not sure what you mean by "=;commands stop working=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t experienced =that.
>>
>> I have other (significant traffic) servers (6.3 and 8.0 Server versions) that have uptime=E2=80=99s over a =year. That=E2=80=99s not to say that the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not fo=und=E2=80=9D error couldn=E2=80=99t happen on those boxes someday. If you are experiencing these things regularly, it would be interesting to find out what is causing the issues.
>>
>> I don=E2=80=99t think switching to FastCGI is goin=g to change your =E2=80=9Cstability issues=E2=80=9D other than y=ou won=E2=80=99t need a cron job if you have a server that is crashing. The engine is pretty much the same between Server and FastCGI, only FastCGI restarts itself inherently, without the need of a WebDNA Monitor app. If you have a server that is crashing, you may not notice things as much, but the event would still be recorded.. and things like sessions, or page loads could still be interrupted.=C2=A0 The =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D= error seems an error other than crashing.
>>
>> If I had to guess, this error has something to do with code... Maybe not bad code necessarily, but maybe task-oriented code that WebDNA fails to execute through in an ideal/complete fashion. I think the answer would eventually come in a keen eye on the WebDNA and Apache logs, and trying to isolate an exact time when WebDNA stops recognizing a file.
>>
>> Anyway, I=E2=80=99d be interested if you find anyt=hing, as I was aware of the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found" iss=ue, but it was never a priority because of the rarity of the event.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Donovan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:23 AM, Matthew Perosi <=matt@psiprime.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is exactly why I have to restart mine every once in a while. WebDNA says it's running, but some commands stop working.
>>>
>>> Sometimes pages give me a "template not found" type error while others are fine.
>>>
>>> On one of my servers running CentOS 6.3 and webDNA 6.2 I have a cron job restarting WebDNA every 2 hours during the work day because calls to ImageMagic stop working at random, but everything else works.
>>>
>>> A cron restart prevents it all. I'm lookin=g forward to the inevitable switch to fastcgi to be free of these stability issues.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> Sent from my European iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris does the app just ping WebDNA or does it check if it is working ie checks that it is processing commands etc ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 6:17 pm, christophe.billi=ottet@webdna.us wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Check that WebDNAMonitor is up and running: this small application monitors WebDNA server and restart it if necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> - chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:56, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every now and then WebDNA stops working =E2=80=A6..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 5:37 pm, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you ask?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Sent from phone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Dan Strong
>>>>>>> http://DanStrong.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2015 7:47 PM, "Stuart Tremain" <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> I saw a couple of people are restarting WebDNA on a regular basis using CRON on Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May I ask as to why you feel this is necessary ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>
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Matt,
What versions of apache and openSSL are you running on your DNA6.2/centOS6.3 box?
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-Dan Strong
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Terry Wilson <terry@terryfic.com> wrote:
I also have the mail problem a couple of times a year.
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, "Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi " <matt@psiprime.com> wrote:
>
> Donovan,
>
> Most of my servers are stable all year long, but I have one or two bad apples that hiccup and give me the "template not found" error. It always aggravates =me that parts of my CMS will run fine, but only one or two pages say they are not found.=C2=A0 Even though the WebDNA Monito=r says the engine is running, I stop it and restart it to solve this issue.
>
> Other than the "template not found" issue, t=here's another issue that goes unnoticed until it's way too late.=C2=A0 Emails get stuck in the EMailFolder without any other hint of a problem.=C2=A0 When this happens, it happen=s to all websites on the server all at once.=C2=A0 A WebDNA stop/start does not solve this issue, so I have to reboot the server.=C2=A0 This has been a problem for me sin=ce 1997 when I started using WebDNA.=C2=A0 Every server I'=ve ever had, from WebCat 3 on RedHat 3, WebCat 4 on RedHat 4, WebDNA 5 on RedHat 5, WebDNA 6 on RedHat 5 and CentOS 6.2/6.3/6.4 have all randomly decided to one day trap all the emails.
>
> Well, in early 2014 a mission critical server for my utility company client stopped sending emails.=C2=A0 It only took us about 18 hours to notice, but they were livid.=C2=A0 So I developed a bunch of triggers, and set up= a dedicated server just to ping every one of my production servers.=C2=A0 Now, twice a day, all at once, I get a serie=s of emails from all the servers sent to my smartphone.=C2=A0= I know everything is working as long as I see every email.=C2=A0 It turns out that this is a really good DNS an=d network check too.
>
> Now, the other issue, and the one you are wondering about with the command not working started happening in November 2014 with one of the servers.=C2=A0 This one serve=r is a VPS from GoDaddy.=C2=A0 I think it started right after they upgraded it from CentOS 6.3 to 6.4.=C2=A0 This server =is running the WebDNA 6.? Pre-Gold build you gave me in the summer of 2013.
>
> I have a form page for uploading images.=C2=A0 Once submitted the script runs this command:
> [text]garbage=3D[Shell scriptid=3Djr4newslettersimages][/Shell][/text]
>
> Normally the images are processed through ImageMagick and we see them on he screen.=C2=A0 But several times a day since November the images do not upload.=C2=A0 Here's the script that's getting called:
>
> "[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [smThumb]x[smThumb] "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]&qu=ot; -resize [smThumb]x[smThumb] +profile "*""../../../newsletters/images/thumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_end=ing][/unurl][!]
> [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [medThumb]x[medThumb] "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]&qu=ot; -resize [medThumb]x[medThumb] +profile "*""../../../newsletters/images/medThumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_=ending][/unurl][!]
> [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] "../../../newsletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]&qu=ot; -resize [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] +profile "*" "../../../newsletters/images/[uploadedimg]"[unurl=][line_ending][/unurl]
>
> Of course that script has not changed in years, so that's not the problem.=C2=A0 Just like the "templ=ate not found" issue, a stop/start of the engine fixes this. >
> I assume it's some strange disconnect with the OS 6.3 to 6.4 upgrade, perhaps a library.=C2=A0 I also assume =it will go away when I eventually upgrade to WebDNA 8.
> In the mean time I just have a cron job running this script every hour during normal business hours:
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl stop
> sleep 5
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl start
>
> I love my cats, but I always seem to find new ways to skin them. ;-)
>
> -Matt
>
>
>
>> On 1/20/2015 9:33 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>> I have experienced the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found==E2=80=9D error, currently only on my 6.2 Server boxes. It is rare (few times a year), so when it happens I just do a manual restart. I=E2=80=99m not sure what you mean by "=;commands stop working=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t experienced =that.
>>
>> I have other (significant traffic) servers (6.3 and 8.0 Server versions) that have uptime=E2=80=99s over a =year. That=E2=80=99s not to say that the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not fo=und=E2=80=9D error couldn=E2=80=99t happen on those boxes someday. If you are experiencing these things regularly, it would be interesting to find out what is causing the issues.
>>
>> I don=E2=80=99t think switching to FastCGI is goin=g to change your =E2=80=9Cstability issues=E2=80=9D other than y=ou won=E2=80=99t need a cron job if you have a server that is crashing. The engine is pretty much the same between Server and FastCGI, only FastCGI restarts itself inherently, without the need of a WebDNA Monitor app. If you have a server that is crashing, you may not notice things as much, but the event would still be recorded.. and things like sessions, or page loads could still be interrupted.=C2=A0 The =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D= error seems an error other than crashing.
>>
>> If I had to guess, this error has something to do with code... Maybe not bad code necessarily, but maybe task-oriented code that WebDNA fails to execute through in an ideal/complete fashion. I think the answer would eventually come in a keen eye on the WebDNA and Apache logs, and trying to isolate an exact time when WebDNA stops recognizing a file.
>>
>> Anyway, I=E2=80=99d be interested if you find anyt=hing, as I was aware of the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found" iss=ue, but it was never a priority because of the rarity of the event.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Donovan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:23 AM, Matthew Perosi <=matt@psiprime.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is exactly why I have to restart mine every once in a while. WebDNA says it's running, but some commands stop working.
>>>
>>> Sometimes pages give me a "template not found" type error while others are fine.
>>>
>>> On one of my servers running CentOS 6.3 and webDNA 6.2 I have a cron job restarting WebDNA every 2 hours during the work day because calls to ImageMagic stop working at random, but everything else works.
>>>
>>> A cron restart prevents it all. I'm lookin=g forward to the inevitable switch to fastcgi to be free of these stability issues.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> Sent from my European iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris does the app just ping WebDNA or does it check if it is working ie checks that it is processing commands etc ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 6:17 pm, christophe.billi=ottet@webdna.us wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Check that WebDNAMonitor is up and running: this small application monitors WebDNA server and restart it if necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> - chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:56, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every now and then WebDNA stops working =E2=80=A6..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 5:37 pm, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you ask?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Sent from phone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Dan Strong
>>>>>>> http://DanStrong.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2015 7:47 PM, "Stuart Tremain" <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> I saw a couple of people are restarting WebDNA on a regular basis using CRON on Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May I ask as to why you feel this is necessary ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain
>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments
>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> Matthew A Perosi
>> Corporate Consultant
>> Mobile Marketing Expert
>> Senior Web Developer
>> SEO Analyst & Educator
>> matt@psiprime.com
>>
>> Psi Prime, Inc.
>> 323 Union Blvd.
>> Totowa, NJ 07512
>>
>> Direct:=C2=A0 888.872.0274
>> Fax:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0888.488.5924
>>
>> http://www.perosi.com
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