Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan

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2017


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 113898
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texte = 1498 I have it running on macs and windows but it=E2=80=99s legacy only. I haven=E2= =80=99t been compelled to switch from php for new full development. I still u= se it for proof of concept as it=E2=80=99s a great rapid development tool an= d for smaller projects.=20 I only know of one clique one only one person is in it.=20 Yes the developer is the one to talk to on getting it to install on a newer M= ac OS=20 Robert Minor Cybermill.com 314-962-4024 ext 500 On Dec 19, 2017, at 21:34, Kenneth Grome wrote: >> You of all people ken!=20 >=20 > Huh? >=20 >=20 >> Maybe if I gave you shell access...?=20 >=20 > If you want to give someone shell access so they can fix your > problems, try Chris. He's the one who has to figure out how to > make WebDNA install and run on multiple systems, not me. >=20 > FYI I always run Ubuntu on the VPSs I get from my hosts. I never > use MacOS or Windows, and I don't even use any other Linux > versions. This keeps my life simple, and it lets me remain an > expert in my personal (yet very narrow) choice of software > packages. So I'm sorry if you think I can help you, but you're > wrong because I cannot. >=20 > However, if you get an Ubuntu 17.04 VPS running the latest Apache > and WebDNA I might actually be able to help. >=20 >=20 >> It's very easy to understand the little "click" you all >> have ... >=20 > We do not have a clique. >=20 > Whether you accept it or not, the fact remains that this talk list > has shrunken dramatically from its heyday 15 years ago and its > character has changed a lot since then, too. >=20 > Back then everyone was gung-ho on WebDNA and there were LOTS MORE > OF US here. Things have mellowed since then, but I get the > impression that you are not able to recognize or accept these > changes ... :( >=20 > My personal guess is that there are fewer than 50 subscribers on > this list, and only a handful are still running their own servers. > And since there are practically no WebDNA hosts running Macs any > more, it's no wonder you're not getting answers to your questions > about your Mac servers. >=20 > I honestly do not understand your attitude here. You're so > impatient that you ask the same off-topic questions not once but > twice -- simply because you seem to have it in your head that > someone here knows the answers but is unwilling to help you. I do > not believe this for a minute, but apparently you do, which makes > me wonder: >=20 > Can you accept that your beliefs might be incorrect? >=20 > Can you accept the possibility that there is no clique here, and > instead you are simply trying to demand answers from people who > are not able to help you? >=20 >=20 >> and I'm sure that's why the software never took off and the >> same few people here from 15 years ago! >=20 > You seem "sure" of several things that simply are not true. >=20 >=20 > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Kenneth Grome >> > wrote: >>=20 >> Brian, there's no need to ask the same questions twice. Your >> questions are somewhat unusual/specific and only tangentially >> related to WebDNA so I suspect that no one here has the answers >> you desire. >>=20 >> It looks like you're still running your own hardware. My personal >> guess is that most of us do not deal with hardware any more. It >> was a long time ago that I found it exceptionally cost-effective, >> and basically a no-brainer, to outsource my hardware needs to >> professionals. They have the massive redundant network >> connections, the newest hardware and software, and the expertise >> to provide very reliable service -- at very reasonable prices. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 12/19/2017 11:48 AM, Brian Harrington wrote: >>> I know this is off topic and I'm sure someone has the answer here >>> and I did some looking myself... >>>=20 >>> macOS 10.11.6 El Capitan & Apache 2.4.18 (unix) (2009 MacPro ungraded) >>>=20 >>> Have (2) 1TB 850evo's on Apricorn dual getting 700/MB's (fyi same >>> 2 SSD's on my slide in slots 450/520). It holds the OS and is >>> named SSD... >>>=20 >>> Have (4) 4TB in slots set to raid 0... named it "RAID"...=20 >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >>> Below works=20 >>> 1)? How can I reference the 'RAID' drive in .conf and host...? >>>=20 >>> >>> Options FollowSymLinks Multiviews >>> MultiviewsMatch Any >>> AllowOverride None >>> Require all granted >>> >>>=20 >>> >> > >>> ServerName auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> ServerAlias *.auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> ServerAlias *.*.auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> >>> ServerAlias *.*.*.auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> >>> ServerAlias *.*.*.*.auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> >>> DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/auto-glass-xpress.com/ >> >>> >>> Directoryindex index.tpl >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >>>=20 >>> 2)? old computer running Apache 2.2.24 7/2013 build >>>=20 >>> new computer Apache 2.4.18 2/2016 build >>>=20 >>> These below work on old computer but stops apache on new >>> computer???? >>>=20 >>> >> > >>> ServerName images.* >>> ServerAlias en.images.* >>> DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/list.en.images/ >>> Directoryindex index.tpl=20 >>> >>>=20 >>> >> > >>> ServerName images.01.* >>> ServerAlias images.01.*.* >>> ServerAlias www.images.01.* >>> ServerAlias en.images.01.* >>> ServerAlias www.en.images.01.* >>> DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/list.en.1.1.users.post.mgr.IMG.01/ >>> Directoryindex index.tpl >>> >>>=20 >>> is their a module I need to turn on or off? >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------- >>>=20 >>> Was thinking rather than bog down the SSD w/OS with images and >>> such, put them on the RAID HHD...? >>>=20 >>> Thank you in advance.. Brian > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us . Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Stuart Tremain 2017)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Stuart Tremain 2017)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Boegershausen 2017)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2017)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Bob Minor 2017)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  21. [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (Steve Craig 2015)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (Steve Craig 2015)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (Michael Davis 2015)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  27. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  28. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (Steve Craig 2015)
  29. [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  30. [WebDNA] El Capitan (Steve Craig 2015)
1498 I have it running on macs and windows but it=E2=80=99s legacy only. I haven=E2= =80=99t been compelled to switch from php for new full development. I still u= se it for proof of concept as it=E2=80=99s a great rapid development tool an= d for smaller projects.=20 I only know of one clique one only one person is in it.=20 Yes the developer is the one to talk to on getting it to install on a newer M= ac OS=20 Robert Minor Cybermill.com 314-962-4024 ext 500 On Dec 19, 2017, at 21:34, Kenneth Grome wrote: >> You of all people ken!=20 >=20 > Huh? >=20 >=20 >> Maybe if I gave you shell access...?=20 >=20 > If you want to give someone shell access so they can fix your > problems, try Chris. He's the one who has to figure out how to > make WebDNA install and run on multiple systems, not me. >=20 > FYI I always run Ubuntu on the VPSs I get from my hosts. I never > use MacOS or Windows, and I don't even use any other Linux > versions. This keeps my life simple, and it lets me remain an > expert in my personal (yet very narrow) choice of software > packages. So I'm sorry if you think I can help you, but you're > wrong because I cannot. >=20 > However, if you get an Ubuntu 17.04 VPS running the latest Apache > and WebDNA I might actually be able to help. >=20 >=20 >> It's very easy to understand the little "click" you all >> have ... >=20 > We do not have a clique. >=20 > Whether you accept it or not, the fact remains that this Talk List > has shrunken dramatically from its heyday 15 years ago and its > character has changed a lot since then, too. >=20 > Back then everyone was gung-ho on WebDNA and there were LOTS MORE > OF US here. Things have mellowed since then, but I get the > impression that you are not able to recognize or accept these > changes ... :( >=20 > My personal guess is that there are fewer than 50 subscribers on > this list, and only a handful are still running their own servers. > And since there are practically no WebDNA hosts running Macs any > more, it's no wonder you're not getting answers to your questions > about your Mac servers. >=20 > I honestly do not understand your attitude here. You're so > impatient that you ask the same off-topic questions not once but > twice -- simply because you seem to have it in your head that > someone here knows the answers but is unwilling to help you. I do > not believe this for a minute, but apparently you do, which makes > me wonder: >=20 > Can you accept that your beliefs might be incorrect? >=20 > Can you accept the possibility that there is no clique here, and > instead you are simply trying to demand answers from people who > are not able to help you? >=20 >=20 >> and I'm sure that's why the software never took off and the >> same few people here from 15 years ago! >=20 > You seem "sure" of several things that simply are not true. >=20 >=20 > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Kenneth Grome >> > wrote: >>=20 >> Brian, there's no need to ask the same questions twice. Your >> questions are somewhat unusual/specific and only tangentially >> related to WebDNA so I suspect that no one here has the answers >> you desire. >>=20 >> It looks like you're still running your own hardware. My personal >> guess is that most of us do not deal with hardware any more. It >> was a long time ago that I found it exceptionally cost-effective, >> and basically a no-brainer, to outsource my hardware needs to >> professionals. They have the massive redundant network >> connections, the newest hardware and software, and the expertise >> to provide very reliable service -- at very reasonable prices. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 12/19/2017 11:48 AM, Brian Harrington wrote: >>> I know this is off topic and I'm sure someone has the answer here >>> and I did some looking myself... >>>=20 >>> macOS 10.11.6 El Capitan & Apache 2.4.18 (unix) (2009 MacPro ungraded) >>>=20 >>> Have (2) 1TB 850evo's on Apricorn dual getting 700/MB's (fyi same >>> 2 SSD's on my slide in slots 450/520). It holds the OS and is >>> named SSD... >>>=20 >>> Have (4) 4TB in slots set to raid 0... named it "RAID"...=20 >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >>> Below works=20 >>> 1)? How can I reference the 'RAID' drive in .conf and host...? >>>=20 >>> >>> Options FollowSymLinks Multiviews >>> MultiviewsMatch Any >>> AllowOverride None >>> Require all granted >>> >>>=20 >>> >> > >>> ServerName auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> ServerAlias *.auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> ServerAlias *.*.auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> >>> ServerAlias *.*.*.auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> >>> ServerAlias *.*.*.*.auto-glass-xpress.com >> >>> >>> DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/auto-glass-xpress.com/ >> >>> >>> Directoryindex index.tpl >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >>>=20 >>> 2)? old computer running Apache 2.2.24 7/2013 build >>>=20 >>> new computer Apache 2.4.18 2/2016 build >>>=20 >>> These below work on old computer but stops apache on new >>> computer???? >>>=20 >>> >> > >>> ServerName images.* >>> ServerAlias en.images.* >>> DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/list.en.images/ >>> Directoryindex index.tpl=20 >>> >>>=20 >>> >> > >>> ServerName images.01.* >>> ServerAlias images.01.*.* >>> ServerAlias www.images.01.* >>> ServerAlias en.images.01.* >>> ServerAlias www.en.images.01.* >>> DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/list.en.1.1.users.post.mgr.IMG.01/ >>> Directoryindex index.tpl >>> >>>=20 >>> is their a module I need to turn on or off? >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------- >>>=20 >>> Was thinking rather than bog down the SSD w/OS with images and >>> such, put them on the RAID HHD...? >>>=20 >>> Thank you in advance.. Brian > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us . Bob Minor

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