Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan
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numero = 113901
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texte = 1501 > I tend to disagree... most all us running webdna use our own > servers ... I think it makes sense to distinguish between "I own my own hardware" and "I rent/lease my hardware". I think most WebDNA users rent/lease their server hardware these days. Maybe you disagree, and maybe you're right. I could be wrong, but: Given the minuscule cost of a commodity VPS, it makes no sense (for me anyways) to deal with any hardware or network access issues when a professional hosting company will deal with all this for me -- and charge me a pittance for a VPS that I control exclusively and therefore personally setup and configure with my choice of OS and all other software, WebDNA included. > ... because most hosting companies NEVER heard of webdna and > the one that does wants a fortune per domain. When you're managing the server software yourself like I do, it doesn't matter if a hosting company knows anything about WebDNA because they have nothing to do with it! So I couldn't care less if most hosting companies have ever heard of WebDNA -- because I can still run it on their hardware without a problem. This allows me to AVOID investing in hardware that will become obsolete in a few years, dealing with colocation services, setting up a physical server in my home/office, etc., etc. Believe me, I went through the stage of running my own server hardware while I was living in Hawaii a very long time ago, and it was never a simple or pleasant thing to do. There was always something I had to attend to. Something always needed tweaking or fixing or replacing. or the colo host was having issues or needed to move to a new building or whatever. It was not fun at all -- just a time-consuming PITA now that I look back on it. > Also, seems like post to the list are screened and sometimes > deleted. You are the first person I can recall who has suggested such a thing. Do you really think someone from WSC has the time and/or the desire to sit there and read every post before approving it for distribution to the list subscribers? > And it seems odd the first time I see a post it already has 4 > answers and or replies...? I have seen occasions where an original post does not appear before the replies. Sometimes it gets shuffled off to my SPAM box, but other times it just seems to happen that messages do not appear in chronological order. > And Apache, Postfix and WebDNA is pretty much the same on any > unix based machine! How did you come to this conclusion? Did you read something that made you believe this? Or do you actually have some experience configuring different varieties of unix-based servers? > Chris seemed willing to help Lawrence and was looking for a > "little" help migrating over to the new server. Chris thought it might be a WebDNA issue, that's why he was apparently willing to help track down the suspected "WebDNA bug". But it was not a bug, it was a simple Apache configuration issue. Anyways, since we're on the topic you should know that Chris/WSC offer paid technical support on a case-by-case basis now. Regards, Kenneth Grome WebDNA Solutions http://www.webdnasolutions.com Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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1501 > I tend to disagree... most all us running webdna use our own > servers ... I think it makes sense to distinguish between "I own my own hardware" and "I rent/lease my hardware". I think most WebDNA users rent/lease their server hardware these days. Maybe you disagree, and maybe you're right. I could be wrong, but: Given the minuscule cost of a commodity VPS, it makes no sense (for me anyways) to deal with any hardware or network access issues when a professional hosting company will deal with all this for me -- and charge me a pittance for a VPS that I control exclusively and therefore personally setup and configure with my choice of OS and all other software, WebDNA included. > ... because most hosting companies NEVER heard of webdna and > the one that does wants a fortune per domain. When you're managing the server software yourself like I do, it doesn't matter if a hosting company knows anything about WebDNA because they have nothing to do with it! So I couldn't care less if most hosting companies have ever heard of WebDNA -- because I can still run it on their hardware without a problem. This allows me to AVOID investing in hardware that will become obsolete in a few years, dealing with colocation services, setting up a physical server in my home/office, etc., etc. Believe me, I went through the stage of running my own server hardware while I was living in Hawaii a very long time ago, and it was never a simple or pleasant thing to do. There was always something I had to attend to. Something always needed tweaking or fixing or replacing. or the colo host was having issues or needed to move to a new building or whatever. It was not fun at all -- just a time-consuming PITA now that I look back on it. > Also, seems like post to the list are screened and sometimes > deleted. You are the first person I can recall who has suggested such a thing. Do you really think someone from WSC has the time and/or the desire to sit there and read every post before approving it for distribution to the list subscribers? > And it seems odd the first time I see a post it already has 4 > answers and or replies...? I have seen occasions where an original post does not appear before the replies. Sometimes it gets shuffled off to my SPAM box, but other times it just seems to happen that messages do not appear in chronological order. > And Apache, Postfix and WebDNA is pretty much the same on any > unix based machine! How did you come to this conclusion? Did you read something that made you believe this? Or do you actually have some experience configuring different varieties of unix-based servers? > Chris seemed willing to help Lawrence and was looking for a > "little" help migrating over to the new server. Chris thought it might be a WebDNA issue, that's why he was apparently willing to help track down the suspected "WebDNA bug". But it was not a bug, it was a simple Apache configuration issue. Anyways, since we're on the topic you should know that Chris/WSC offer paid technical support on a case-by-case basis now. Regards, Kenneth Grome WebDNA Solutions http://www.webdnasolutions.com Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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