Re: [WebDNA] Apple nixes Mac OS Server ("websites") and other
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texte = 1549 Palle, Personally, I will be glad to have Apple keep their hands off of Apache. = The Server.app has always been geared toward internal LAN services = rather than as a "control panel" that might help those of us that serve = web sites publicly. Their squid cache setup has just convoluted the = conf files and made it harder to run a professional level web host (just = try changing ports on these services, for instance because you want to = run your own accelerator cache like Varnish on port 80. Can't do it). = What remains to be seen is whether discontinuing the websites in the = Server.app will actually free up Apache from the mungling hands of Apple = or whether there will still be custom conf directories that tie http = services to some other service. If you like using the Apple GUI to manage web sites, you'll probably be = even happier with the WebMin GUI, which you would be free to use once = Apple gets out of the way in the Apache conf directory. Like I said, I'm glad to see them step away from the web services, as = the Server.app has slowly become more crippled over the years, with each = update removing functionality, rather than adding it. Just try = monitoring your smtp queue in Server.app 5 for instance. It's no longer = there. So I welcome Apple staying away from Apache and allowing me to = configure it without worrying about whether the conf files are going to = be overwritten by the Server.app. Mike > On Jan 29, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen =
wrote: >=20 > Hi all and specifically to Christpohe >=20 > Maybe you have already seen the announcement from Apple >=20 >>> Prepare for changes to macOS Server << >=20 > Which is elaborated when reading the text/information within thi URL >=20 >>> https://support.apple.com/da-dk/HT208312 << >=20 > Basically Apple informs that Mac OS Server will not included a series = of services in the next version. Of interest to this talklist is the = fact that Apple will no longer support the =E2=80=98Websites=E2=80=99 = within Mac OS Server. The recommend the following as an alternative. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Apache HTTP Server > =E2=80=A2 Nginx > =E2=80=A2 Lighttpd >=20 > So not trying to start a discussion about Mac. I would rather talk = about how we can secure that WebDNA and Mac will be able to continue = hand in hand, >=20 > How will we be able to run WebDNA on a Mac in the future. Christophe, = have you had any thoughts? >=20 > /Palle--------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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1549 Palle, Personally, I will be glad to have Apple keep their hands off of Apache. = The Server.app has always been geared toward internal LAN services = rather than as a "control panel" that might help those of us that serve = web sites publicly. Their squid cache setup has just convoluted the = conf files and made it harder to run a professional level web host (just = try changing ports on these services, for instance because you want to = run your own accelerator cache like Varnish on port 80. Can't do it). = What remains to be seen is whether discontinuing the websites in the = Server.app will actually free up Apache from the mungling hands of Apple = or whether there will still be custom conf directories that tie http = services to some other service. If you like using the Apple GUI to manage web sites, you'll probably be = even happier with the WebMin GUI, which you would be free to use once = Apple gets out of the way in the Apache conf directory. Like I said, I'm glad to see them step away from the web services, as = the Server.app has slowly become more crippled over the years, with each = update removing functionality, rather than adding it. Just try = monitoring your smtp queue in Server.app 5 for instance. It's no longer = there. So I welcome Apple staying away from Apache and allowing me to = configure it without worrying about whether the conf files are going to = be overwritten by the Server.app. Mike > On Jan 29, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >=20 > Hi all and specifically to Christpohe >=20 > Maybe you have already seen the announcement from Apple >=20 >>> Prepare for changes to macOS Server << >=20 > Which is elaborated when reading the text/information within thi URL >=20 >>> https://support.apple.com/da-dk/HT208312 << >=20 > Basically Apple informs that Mac OS Server will not included a series = of services in the next version. Of interest to this talklist is the = fact that Apple will no longer support the =E2=80=98Websites=E2=80=99 = within Mac OS Server. The recommend the following as an alternative. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Apache HTTP Server > =E2=80=A2 Nginx > =E2=80=A2 Lighttpd >=20 > So not trying to start a discussion about Mac. I would rather talk = about how we can secure that WebDNA and Mac will be able to continue = hand in hand, >=20 > How will we be able to run WebDNA on a Mac in the future. Christophe, = have you had any thoughts? >=20 > /Palle--------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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