Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT.
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texte = Martin, I'm sorry but I disagree with you on almost everything. I've had quite a bit of experience running Web servers on both platforms. Withought a doubt the Mac is a more secure platform than Linux, but that is by nature since the Mac was designed from the ground up to be a single user machine while Linux is a multi-user system. However a good sysadmin that knows what he is doing should have no problem securing a Linux box to more than acceptable levels. Furthermore if the nature of your work makes security such a high priority, you should have a Firewall installed anyway regardless of what platform you run. As for stability I hate to disagree with you again, Linux is absolutely bullet proof, but again having a sysadmin that knows what he is doing is essential. Let us not forget that Linux has full memory protection, while the Mac doesn't. None of our Linux servers have ever crashed(the exception being an MKLinux box running an old developer release), and it is quite common for our machines to be up months at time until we have to reboot them due to upgrading the kernel or some other upgrade or installation that requires it. You are right however when you say that Macs are easier to trouble shoot, maintain and administer, but I think Linux makes up for it in performance stability and flexibility. So I guess that the on-topic point of my post is that I second the motion for having Webcatalog ported to Linux. Can you imagine, the sheer speed of Webcat running on a 533MHz 64-bit Alpha/Linux demon? I think it would make a lot of people sit up and pay attention to WebCatalog as a high availability, high performance, serious E-commerce platform. Don't know if it makes commercial sense for Pacifi-Coast to do so, but it would certainly make a loyal WebCat developer(yours truly) very happy. BTW, is anybody on this list doing any Webcat work in NYC? I'm in the process of moving there, and would like to make myself available to anyone that might need a good Webcat developer in the area, it would be a shame if I had to end up developing in Cold Fusion ;-)JoseMartin Gertz Bech wrote:> You just forget a firewall because Linux aint secure enough, (at least not > for my solutions where some of my customers actually has the law telling > them about security issues! > > Linux, well Linux is fast enough indeed, but i would not considder it > reliable in the matter of up-time. > > I have a example of the tability that i want in my solutions. > http://www.yak-yak.com which is a Macbased server not running WebCat, > (atleast not yet) > > Now the server has been up for more than a year, with no crash! > > In its lifetime it has only had a few crashes explained by powerfailure. > > Thats stability that ROCKS! Linux can't offer me this. > > If something goes wrong on a linux box, it's much more complex to > administer, why i have to spend much more time doing this, than if the > solution has been on a mac server. > > Martin > >
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Martin, I'm sorry but I disagree with you on almost everything. I've had quite a bit of experience running Web servers on both platforms. Withought a doubt the Mac is a more secure platform than Linux, but that is by nature since the Mac was designed from the ground up to be a single user machine while Linux is a multi-user system. However a good sysadmin that knows what he is doing should have no problem securing a Linux box to more than acceptable levels. Furthermore if the nature of your work makes security such a high priority, you should have a Firewall installed anyway regardless of what platform you run. As for stability I hate to disagree with you again, Linux is absolutely bullet proof, but again having a sysadmin that knows what he is doing is essential. Let us not forget that Linux has full memory protection, while the Mac doesn't. None of our Linux servers have ever crashed(the exception being an MKLinux box running an old developer release), and it is quite common for our machines to be up months at time until we have to reboot them due to upgrading the kernel or some other upgrade or installation that requires it. You are right however when you say that Macs are easier to trouble shoot, maintain and administer, but I think Linux makes up for it in performance stability and flexibility. So I guess that the on-topic point of my post is that I second the motion for having Webcatalog ported to Linux. Can you imagine, the sheer speed of Webcat running on a 533MHz 64-bit Alpha/Linux demon? I think it would make a lot of people sit up and pay attention to WebCatalog as a high availability, high performance, serious E-commerce platform. Don't know if it makes commercial sense for Pacifi-Coast to do so, but it would certainly make a loyal WebCat developer(yours truly) very happy. BTW, is anybody on this list doing any Webcat work in NYC? I'm in the process of moving there, and would like to make myself available to anyone that might need a good Webcat developer in the area, it would be a shame if I had to end up developing in Cold Fusion ;-)JoseMartin Gertz Bech wrote:> You just forget a firewall because Linux aint secure enough, (at least not > for my solutions where some of my customers actually has the law telling > them about security issues! > > Linux, well Linux is fast enough indeed, but i would not considder it > reliable in the matter of up-time. > > I have a example of the tability that i want in my solutions. > http://www.yak-yak.com which is a Macbased server not running WebCat, > (atleast not yet) > > Now the server has been up for more than a year, with no crash! > > In its lifetime it has only had a few crashes explained by powerfailure. > > Thats stability that ROCKS! Linux can't offer me this. > > If something goes wrong on a linux box, it's much more complex to > administer, why i have to spend much more time doing this, than if the > solution has been on a mac server. > > Martin > >
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