Carts & cookies

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1999


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texte = This is one of two or three more emails I have to write, so if you don't like my opinions, you may want to stop reading now...For those of you who are left, The first thing that probably needs to change to stay current in the field of E-commerce is the use of cookies to pass cart values. As much as I haven't been a fan of cookies, there is a use for them, and most people whose browsers are capable have learned that they need to accept cookies from shoppable sites if they want to shop. In ways, it has become a defacto standard.Although WebCatalog has a cookie mechanism built in, I think It could be vastly improved to help facilitate using carts.As far as I can tell, There are three ways to pass a cart value 2 are in a URL ....?cart=[cart] ....&cart=[cart] 1 in hidden inputs Therefor we need three newish cart tags: [&cart] [?cart] [input-cart] these would all look for the presence of a cart in a cookie named cart and hide themselves if their presence was not needed, and they would fill in just like the above examples if a browser failed to send back a cart value, but WebCatalog would be programmed (possibly with a user selectable setting to turn this off?) to attempt to set a cookie with the current cart on any page request that didn't include the cart cookie. Also, if WebCatalog detects a cookie named cart, it uses that value automatically for all cart tags that may be needed on that page. Now I can hear some of you saying just set the cookie on the first page, and forget about passing carts but that won't work, and you have to have a cart link for every link for the older browsers.This will facilitate the elimination of dropped carts for browsers that support cookies (like you've never created a link and forgot the cart tag!), as well as helping recall the contents of a cart if a shopper returns in a few hours (or from the non-shopping part of a site). (or if they reload the home page (without the cart in the URL) etc, etc... Brian B. Burton BOFH - Department of Redundancy Department --------------------------------------------------------------- MMT Solutions - Specializing in Online Shopping Solutions 973-808-8644 http://www.safecommerce.comAre you a Web Programmer? I am today. Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. [WebDNA] Old carts not deleting (Stuart Tremain 2015)
  2. [WebDNA] ShoppingCarts issue (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cristi=E1n_Tapia?= 2009)
  3. [WebDNA] ShoppingCarts folder permissions (Paul Willis 2008)
  4. Re: emptying shopping carts and orders folder ( Donovan Brooke 2004)
  5. Re: emptying shopping carts and orders folder ( "Paul Berman" 2004)
  6. Re: emptying shopping carts and orders folder ( Donovan Brooke 2004)
  7. Re: emptying shopping carts and orders folder ( "Paul Berman" 2004)
  8. Re: emptying shopping carts and orders folder ( John Peacock 2004)
  9. Re: emptying shopping carts and orders folder ( "Paul Berman" 2004)
  10. Re: emptying shopping carts and orders folder ( Donovan Brooke 2004)
  11. Re: emptying shopping carts and orders folder ( "Paul Berman" 2004)
  12. SQL ShoppingCarts v5.x ( Bob Minor 2003)
  13. ShoppingCarts and Sandboxes ( Tim Robinson 2003)
  14. Re: 5.0: Blank shopping carts & other weirdness (WJ Starck 2003)
  15. Re: 5.0: Blank shopping carts & other weirdness (John Peacock 2003)
  16. 5.0: Blank shopping carts & other weirdness (WJ Starck 2003)
  17. Re: Multiple Carts with Mac IE (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  18. Multiple Carts with Mac IE (Richard Kirsner 2002)
  19. Re: moved shoppingCarts folder... now there's nothing in it. (Josh Lynn 2001)
  20. Re: moved shoppingCarts folder... now there's nothing in it. (Will Starck 2001)
  21. moved shoppingCarts folder... now there's nothing in it. (Josh Lynn 2001)
  22. Re: Shopping Carts folder does not exist in Linux (John Peacock 2000)
  23. Shopping Carts folder does not exist in Linux (John Winningham 2000)
  24. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (WebDNA Support 2000)
  25. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (John Winningham 2000)
  26. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (Bob McPeak 2000)
  27. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (Jay Van Vark 2000)
  28. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (John Winningham 2000)
  29. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (Jay Van Vark 2000)
  30. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (John Winningham 2000)
  31. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (John Butler 2000)
  32. Re: WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (John Winningham 2000)
  33. WebCatalog not recognizing ShoppingCarts folder (John Winningham 2000)
  34. Re: carts on MacOS X Server (James Howarth 2000)
  35. Re: carts on MacOS X Server (John Butler 2000)
  36. Re: carts on MacOS X Server (oops) (Clement Ross 2000)
  37. Re: carts on MacOS X Server (Clement Ross 2000)
  38. Re: carts on MacOS X Server (Peter Ostry 2000)
  39. carts on MacOS X Server (Nitai 2000)
  40. Re: Carts & cookies (Brian B. Burton 1999)
  41. Re: Carts & cookies (Brian B. Burton 1999)
  42. Re: Carts in Admin folder? (PCS Technical Support 1999)
  43. Re: Carts in Admin folder? (The Mooseman 1999)
  44. Re: Carts in Admin folder? (Mícheál O Sé 1999)
  45. Re: Carts in Admin folder? (Gil Poulsen 1999)
  46. Re: Carts in Admin folder? (Mícheál O Sé 1999)
  47. Carts in Admin folder? (Gil Poulsen 1999)
  48. Re: Carts & cookies (Peter Ostry 1999)
  49. Re: Carts & cookies (Brian B. Burton 1999)
  50. Re: Carts & cookies (Christer Olsson 1999)
  51. Re: Carts & cookies (Kenneth Grome 1999)
  52. Re: Carts & cookies (josh@pop-art.com 1999)
  53. Carts & cookies (Brian B. Burton 1999)
  54. Re: Does anyone have a solution to make carts smaller? (PCS Technical Support 1998)
  55. Re: Does anyone have a solution to make carts smaller? (Carlos Machado 1998)
  56. Re: Does anyone have a solution to make carts smaller? (PCS Technical Support 1998)
  57. Re: Why don't my carts expire (Rob Schmidt 1998)
  58. Why don't my carts expire (Steve Rosenbaum 1998)
  59. Change 2.0 to 2.1: Carts files not written to disk automatically (Gilles Renoul 1998)
  60. 2.0.1: Shopping Carts deleted after 1 hour (Grant Hulbert 1997)
  61. Re: Carts & Refering URLs (John Hill 1997)
  62. Re: Carts & Refering URLs (Michael Winston 1997)
  63. Re: Carts & Refering URLs (Christer Olsson 1997)
  64. Re: Carts & Refering URLs (John Hill 1997)
  65. Carts & Refering URLs (John Benn/PetsForum Group 1997)
  66. Re: different ship dates and shopping carts -- how to? (Kenneth Grome 1997)
  67. Re: different ship dates and shopping carts -- how to? (Sandra L. Pitner 1997)
  68. Re: different ship dates and shopping carts -- how to? (Grant Hulbert 1997)
  69. Re: different ship dates and shopping carts -- how to? (Kenneth Grome 1997)
  70. different ship dates and shopping carts -- how to? (Sandra L. Pitner 1997)
  71. Re: Viewing old carts (was Re: FEW QUESTIONS) (Grant Hulbert 1997)
  72. Re: Viewing old carts (was Re: FEW QUESTIONS) (natasha 1997)
  73. Viewing old carts (was Re: FEW QUESTIONS) (Grant Hulbert 1997)
  74. Re: Shopping carts and reloading pages (Stephanie Wright 1997)
  75. Re: Shopping carts and reloading pages (Grant Hulbert 1997)
  76. Shopping carts and reloading pages (Stephanie Wright 1997)
This is one of two or three more emails I have to write, so if you don't like my opinions, you may want to stop reading now...For those of you who are left, The first thing that probably needs to change to stay current in the field of E-commerce is the use of cookies to pass cart values. As much as I haven't been a fan of cookies, there is a use for them, and most people whose browsers are capable have learned that they need to accept cookies from shoppable sites if they want to shop. In ways, it has become a defacto standard.Although WebCatalog has a cookie mechanism built in, I think It could be vastly improved to help facilitate using carts.As far as I can tell, There are three ways to pass a cart value 2 are in a URL ....?cart=[cart] ....&cart=[cart] 1 in hidden inputs [cart]>Therefor we need three newish cart tags: [&cart] [?cart] [input-cart] these would all look for the presence of a cart in a cookie named cart and hide themselves if their presence was not needed, and they would fill in just like the above examples if a browser failed to send back a cart value, but WebCatalog would be programmed (possibly with a user selectable setting to turn this off?) to attempt to set a cookie with the current cart on any page request that didn't include the cart cookie. Also, if WebCatalog detects a cookie named cart, it uses that value automatically for all cart tags that may be needed on that page. Now I can hear some of you saying just set the cookie on the first page, and forget about passing carts but that won't work, and you have to have a cart link for every link for the older browsers.This will facilitate the elimination of dropped carts for browsers that support cookies (like you've never created a link and forgot the cart tag!), as well as helping recall the contents of a cart if a shopper returns in a few hours (or from the non-shopping part of a site). (or if they reload the home page (without the cart in the URL) etc, etc... Brian B. Burton BOFH - Department of Redundancy Department --------------------------------------------------------------- MMT Solutions - Specializing in Online Shopping Solutions 973-808-8644 http://www.safecommerce.comAre you a Web Programmer? I am today. Brian B. Burton

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