Re: How true is this?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1999
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texte = Now tell me this...how did you confirm with sales that this client calledyou...and there was no knowledge of any other consulting? You don't knowhis name, his whereabouts, nor what type of site he was wanting to build.That's a little far fetched for me...personally.Also, as a provider of both products and services...I will have to agree,there will definitely be a conflict of interest between MY business andyours...as for who's pricing is lower...so far you're winning, at least 1to nothing 0 on that one.And, as for my experience, I find it in my best interest, in this industryto work on keep a long-term client...rather than gathering manyshort-terms. Soon, the law of supply and demand will label everyone, andquality service will the the only thing that keeps anyone moving forward.What is it they say? It sometimes takes years to earn a client, but nevermore than a few minutes to lose one...something to that effect.And one more thing...in some recent decision making processes of my own,I've searched many IT Job sites over the past few weeks, including ZDNet,ComputerJobs.Com, JobBank and more...and so far, the past two years I'veinvested in WebCatalog are NOT going to pay off for me at all in theemployee position. Now I'm doubting a pay off in the employer position aswell.I think I might have jumped on this band-wagon a little early. Gettingexcited about something new and rather promising is easily done forme....but now I'm planning a second guess. And chances are, the one whocan offer me a nice track record and a little more stability for the futurewill be the winner of MY business. You're right again, there are plenty offish in the sea, but do you at all recall Darwin's Theory?At 03:07 PM 11/10/99 -0800, you wrote:>Understandable that our dual role of product and services is going to >cause conflict from time to time... None is intentional and I have >confirmed with sales that this client called us with no knowledge >that any other consultant was working with them....>>We are in business to provide solutions to clients needs, both >products and services. I think as much of the miscommunication here >lies with your client asking for a second quote... Sorry if that was >in conflict to your pricing... I am further confident that our >pricing is probably, in general higher than everyone else's and that >there most likely was a misunderstanding between our sales rep and >the client as to the quote...>>Sorry for any inconvenience... I hope that our product is creating so >many of these fish in the sea that we can all benefit from moving >forward...>>>>I gave a client a quote on a site...and answered his questions about the>>programming of it. He contacted Smith-Micro, to ask questions about>>WebCatalog....and Smith-Micro gave him their own quote....which was about>>$600 less than mine. I matched the price and got the site....but that>>kinda sucked. Not that it's illegal, and not that I can do anything about>>it...but it did suck.>>>>Now I know, my client could be filling me full....but I doubt it. I>>couldn't beat Smith-Micro's estimated time to develop...but what's this>>going to lead to in my future? Does Allaire offer web development in>>ColdFusion?>>Jay Van Vark **********************************>Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | Formerly, Pacific Coast Software>16855 West Bernardo Drive | ------------------------->Suite 380 | eCommerce (WebCatalog)>San Diego, CA 92127 | Software & Site Development>858.675.1106 | http://www.smithmicro.com>858.675.0372 (fax) **********************************>>------------------------------------------------------------->Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.>To end your Mail problems go to
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Now tell me this...how did you confirm with sales that this client calledyou...and there was no knowledge of any other consulting? You don't knowhis name, his whereabouts, nor what type of site he was wanting to build.That's a little far fetched for me...personally.Also, as a provider of both products and services...I will have to agree,there will definitely be a conflict of interest between MY business andyours...as for who's pricing is lower...so far you're winning, at least 1to nothing 0 on that one.And, as for my experience, I find it in my best interest, in this industryto work on keep a long-term client...rather than gathering manyshort-terms. Soon, the law of supply and demand will label everyone, andquality service will the the only thing that keeps anyone moving forward.What is it they say? It sometimes takes years to earn a client, but nevermore than a few minutes to lose one...something to that effect.And one more thing...in some recent decision making processes of my own,I've searched many IT Job sites over the past few weeks, including ZDNet,ComputerJobs.Com, JobBank and more...and so far, the past two years I'veinvested in WebCatalog are NOT going to pay off for me at all in theemployee position. Now I'm doubting a pay off in the employer position aswell.I think I might have jumped on this band-wagon a little early. Gettingexcited about something new and rather promising is easily done forme....but now I'm planning a second guess. And chances are, the one whocan offer me a nice track record and a little more stability for the futurewill be the winner of MY business. You're right again, there are plenty offish in the sea, but do you at all recall Darwin's Theory?At 03:07 PM 11/10/99 -0800, you wrote:>Understandable that our dual role of product and services is going to >cause conflict from time to time... None is intentional and I have >confirmed with sales that this client called us with no knowledge >that any other consultant was working with them....>>We are in business to provide solutions to clients needs, both >products and services. I think as much of the miscommunication here >lies with your client asking for a second quote... Sorry if that was >in conflict to your pricing... I am further confident that our >pricing is probably, in general higher than everyone else's and that >there most likely was a misunderstanding between our sales rep and >the client as to the quote...>>Sorry for any inconvenience... I hope that our product is creating so >many of these fish in the sea that we can all benefit from moving >forward...>>>>I gave a client a quote on a site...and answered his questions about the>>programming of it. He contacted Smith-Micro, to ask questions about>>WebCatalog....and Smith-Micro gave him their own quote....which was about>>$600 less than mine. I matched the price and got the site....but that>>kinda sucked. Not that it's illegal, and not that I can do anything about>>it...but it did suck.>>>>Now I know, my client could be filling me full....but I doubt it. I>>couldn't beat Smith-Micro's estimated time to develop...but what's this>>going to lead to in my future? Does Allaire offer web development in>>ColdFusion?>>Jay Van Vark **********************************>Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | Formerly, Pacific Coast Software>16855 West Bernardo Drive | ------------------------->Suite 380 | eCommerce (WebCatalog)>San Diego, CA 92127 | Software & Site Development>858.675.1106 | http://www.smithmicro.com>858.675.0372 (fax) **********************************>>------------------------------------------------------------->Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.>To end your Mail problems go to .>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> *************************************************************************** What you are speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say. - Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882) - Philosopher and Writer --------------------------------------------------------------Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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