Re: Freeze

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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = TechTools and keyboard are the only 2 ways I know of... ;) Oh well, it was worth a shot.-Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:51:37 lb Lawrence wrote: >Yes I did, I don't know an other way to zapp the PRAM > >le 12/02/03 18:55, Dan Strong à webdna@stronggraphicdesign.com a écrit : > >>> I have zapped the PRAM but my version of TechTool doesn't zapp the PRAM >> did you also hold down the Option+Command+P+R keys upon restart? >> (doubt it will help you...but who knows...) >> >> -Dan >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >> (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:11:12 >> lb Lawrence wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> I'm comming back with my freezing problem. >>> >>> The exact historic is that I was using >>> Mac OS9.1 Web*4.5 Webcatalog 4.5 >>> >>> I tried every thing I new to solve this freezing problem. >>> >>> As I was not fixing the problem I tried to come back to >>> Mac OS8.6 Web*4.4 Webcatalog 4.0 >>> Formating the HD >>> >>> Thought it might solved the problem. >>> >>> It did'nt work >>> >>> I have tried 3 differents Virus Software no virus found >>> I have zapped the PRAM but my version of TechTool doesn't zapp the PRAM >>> >>> I also tried to get the server running without Web*Mail and without Webcat >>> So I don't think the problem is coming from Webcat >>> >>> The problem still exist >>> >>> How else can I do!!! >>> >>> Thank's For help >>> >>> Lawrence >>> >>> >>> le 11/02/03 3:54, Kenneth Grome à kengrome@webdna.net a écrit : >>> >>>>>> Do I really have to download the entire webdna 4.5.1 package simply >>>>>> to read the change history? >>>>>> >>>>>> If not, then why isn't there a link to the change history in a >>>>>> prominent place in the developer resource center? >>>>> >>>>> The Change History is in the Command Reference Section-Appendix C >>>>> http://webdnadocs.smithmicro.com/WebDNA%20Change%20History.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, it's in the section entitled WebDNA 4.5.1 Language Reference >>>> which is misleading but nevertheless it's in there. And here's what >>>> it says about this new feature: >>>> >>>> New 'Safe-Write' preference - Enabled by default. When enabled, the >>>> WebDNA engine creates a temporary file when writing the contents of a >>>> database to disk. The temporary file contents are then moved to the >>>> original database file after the entire database is completely >>>> flushed to disk. This helps to eliminate corruption of the original >>>> database file if there is an interruption during the database write >>>> process. >>>> >>>> In other words, instead of just writing the changes to RAM or to a >>>> single disk file, this new preference does the following: >>>> >>>> 1- closes a db upon every append, replace and delete >>>> 2- writes a new temporary db file to disk >>>> 3- deletes the original db file >>>> 4- renames the temporary file to the original db file name >>>> >>>> And of course since the original db file has been deleted and another >>>> file has taken its place, the new file is not yet open in webdna's >>>> RAM cache ... so it takes additional time for the new db file to be >>>> opened before any visitor can use it. >>>> >>>> And if the request that opens the closed db file is an append, >>>> replace or delete, the file will be immediately closed and replaced >>>> again -- thus eliminating all the benefits of RAM-caching of data. >>>> >>>> Clearly this takes a lot more time than the old way of writing to a >>>> db, especially with large db files and slow OS's ... >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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TechTools and keyboard are the only 2 ways I know of... ;) Oh well, it was worth a shot.-Dan ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 ------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:51:37 lb Lawrence wrote: >Yes I did, I don't know an other way to zapp the PRAM > >le 12/02/03 18:55, Dan Strong à webdna@stronggraphicdesign.com a écrit : > >>> I have zapped the PRAM but my version of TechTool doesn't zapp the PRAM >> did you also hold down the Option+Command+P+R keys upon restart? >> (doubt it will help you...but who knows...) >> >> -Dan >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >> (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:11:12 >> lb Lawrence wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> I'm comming back with my freezing problem. >>> >>> The exact historic is that I was using >>> Mac OS9.1 Web*4.5 Webcatalog 4.5 >>> >>> I tried every thing I new to solve this freezing problem. >>> >>> As I was not fixing the problem I tried to come back to >>> Mac OS8.6 Web*4.4 Webcatalog 4.0 >>> Formating the HD >>> >>> Thought it might solved the problem. >>> >>> It did'nt work >>> >>> I have tried 3 differents Virus Software no virus found >>> I have zapped the PRAM but my version of TechTool doesn't zapp the PRAM >>> >>> I also tried to get the server running without Web*Mail and without Webcat >>> So I don't think the problem is coming from Webcat >>> >>> The problem still exist >>> >>> How else can I do!!! >>> >>> Thank's For help >>> >>> Lawrence >>> >>> >>> le 11/02/03 3:54, Kenneth Grome à kengrome@webdna.net a écrit : >>> >>>>>> Do I really have to download the entire webdna 4.5.1 package simply >>>>>> to read the change history? >>>>>> >>>>>> If not, then why isn't there a link to the change history in a >>>>>> prominent place in the developer resource center? >>>>> >>>>> The Change History is in the Command Reference Section-Appendix C >>>>> http://webdnadocs.smithmicro.com/WebDNA%20Change%20History.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, it's in the section entitled WebDNA 4.5.1 Language Reference >>>> which is misleading but nevertheless it's in there. And here's what >>>> it says about this new feature: >>>> >>>> New 'Safe-Write' preference - Enabled by default. When enabled, the >>>> WebDNA engine creates a temporary file when writing the contents of a >>>> database to disk. The temporary file contents are then moved to the >>>> original database file after the entire database is completely >>>> flushed to disk. This helps to eliminate corruption of the original >>>> database file if there is an interruption during the database write >>>> process. >>>> >>>> In other words, instead of just writing the changes to RAM or to a >>>> single disk file, this new preference does the following: >>>> >>>> 1- closes a db upon every append, replace and delete >>>> 2- writes a new temporary db file to disk >>>> 3- deletes the original db file >>>> 4- renames the temporary file to the original db file name >>>> >>>> And of course since the original db file has been deleted and another >>>> file has taken its place, the new file is not yet open in webdna's >>>> RAM cache ... so it takes additional time for the new db file to be >>>> opened before any visitor can use it. >>>> >>>> And if the request that opens the closed db file is an append, >>>> replace or delete, the file will be immediately closed and replaced >>>> again -- thus eliminating all the benefits of RAM-caching of data. >>>> >>>> Clearly this takes a lot more time than the old way of writing to a >>>> db, especially with large db files and slow OS's ... >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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