Re: Pass a form

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2003

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texte = >Jeff,>A thought for next time.>>Please be very straight on what you are doing.. posting>code etc..>>Though we *can* help, we *cannot* guess what you are doing.Wait just a minute here ...In my opinion Jeff was very straightforward, clear and concise in his first post. There is no need to blame him for *your* mistaken assumptions.Here's exactly what he said in his very first post. It seems pretty clear to me that the only thing he is doing is passing the form data to the next page and trying to display that data on the page with the proper line breaks:I am passing details from a

toanother page. If the someone types detailsin the text area like the example below(With out the lines)--------------------------------This is my form testand here is another test------------------------------The two lines above just run into each other,how can I get the details to show on the nextpage the way they showed in the <textarea> box?I am using [convertchars] around the field.As you can see, Jeff never said he was writing to a db, and he never said he was populating a form field on the next page ... so all you guys who ASSUMED he was doing one of these made a basic mistake in your reading comprehension.Matthew C. Bohne was the first to suggest grep, which it seems that everyone ignored so he suggested it again a second time later, but still no one responded to let him know if his solution had worked or not. Unfortunately his %0B was wrong in this situation (it should have been %0D) but at least he was on the right track (thanks Matthew) and eventually Rob Marquardt (thanks Rob) posted the correct grep code for this task:[grep search=%0D&replace= ]Now, just so everyone knows how to properly deal with this situation in the future, here are the best solutions I have found, and if you use them properly they will work in all cases, no exceptions:1- Use convertchars with the default db when displaying data on the web page, but only when that data comes from a db search.To be 100% safe all the time, you can wrap all your db field name tags in convertchars contexts when they appear on the web page itself, but that's usually overkill. Therefore, I would suggest using convertchars only when the data you're trying to display on the page has been (a) entered into the db via a textarea field or (b) imported from another db program.The reason why you may want to use this technique when the data was imported is because you are probably not the one who put that imported data into the db ... and therefore you may want to 'play it safe' by using convertchars around all field name tags. If you do this and if the data you're trying to display has any %0B characters in it that you didn't know about, they will be changed to tags by the convertchars context.2- Use the grep shown above (or use convertchars with a special conversions db) when displaying data on a web page when that data (a) comes from a form post *and* (b) was entered into a textarea field.3- Use an input context around all the webdna tags that populate your form fields, no matter if the values come from a db or directly from a form post. It's better to be safe than sorry, and it is NEVER a bad thing to use input around your form values. When you always do this for all your form fields (not just the textarea fields as suggested in the HTML docs) you will never have to worry about the "wrong characters" messing up the data you expected to post.And please forget about using the url context in any of these situations. Url is not a replacement for any of these techniques. The url context should be used religiously in other situations, but it has no place here.-- Sincerely,Kenneth Grome-------------------------------------------------------------Outsource your WebDNA programming for $18 an hour or less!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com>.To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <WebDNA-Talk-off@talk.smithmicro.com>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <WebDNA-Talk-digest@talk.smithmicro.com>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/

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>Jeff,>A thought for next time.>>Please be very straight on what you are doing.. posting>code etc..>>Though we *can* help, we *cannot* guess what you are doing.Wait just a minute here ...In my opinion Jeff was very straightforward, clear and concise in his first post. There is no need to blame him for *your* mistaken assumptions.Here's exactly what he said in his very first post. It seems pretty clear to me that the only thing he is doing is passing the form data to the next page and trying to display that data on the page with the proper line breaks:I am passing details from a <textarea> toanother page. If the someone types detailsin the text area like the example below(With out the lines)--------------------------------This is my form testand here is another test------------------------------The two lines above just run into each other,how can I get the details to show on the nextpage the way they showed in the <textarea> box?I am using <a target="_parent" href="page.dna?numero=183">[convertchars]</a> around the field.As you can see, Jeff never said he was writing to a db, and he never said he was populating a form field on the next page ... so all you guys who ASSUMED he was doing one of these made a basic mistake in your reading comprehension.Matthew C. Bohne was the first to suggest grep, which it seems that everyone ignored so he suggested it again a second time later, but still no one responded to let him know if his solution had worked or not. Unfortunately his %0B was wrong in this situation (it should have been %0D) but at least he was on the right track (thanks Matthew) and eventually Rob Marquardt (thanks Rob) posted the correct grep code for this task:[grep search=%0D&replace= ]Now, just so everyone knows how to properly deal with this situation in the future, here are the best solutions I have found, and if you use them properly they will work in all cases, no exceptions:1- Use convertchars with the default db when displaying data on the web page, but only when that data comes from a db search.To be 100% safe all the time, you can wrap all your db field name tags in convertchars contexts when they appear on the web page itself, but that's usually overkill. Therefore, I would suggest using convertchars only when the data you're trying to display on the page has been (a) entered into the db via a textarea field or (b) imported from another db program.The reason why you may want to use this technique when the data was imported is because you are probably not the one who put that imported data into the db ... and therefore you may want to 'play it safe' by using convertchars around all field name tags. If you do this and if the data you're trying to display has any %0B characters in it that you didn't know about, they will be changed to tags by the convertchars context.2- Use the grep shown above (or use convertchars with a special conversions db) when displaying data on a web page when that data (a) comes from a form post *and* (b) was entered into a textarea field.3- Use an input context around all the webdna tags that populate your form fields, no matter if the values come from a db or directly from a form post. It's better to be safe than sorry, and it is NEVER a bad thing to use input around your form values. When you always do this for all your form fields (not just the textarea fields as suggested in the HTML docs) you will never have to worry about the "wrong characters" messing up the data you expected to post.And please forget about using the url context in any of these situations. Url is not a replacement for any of these techniques. The url context should be used religiously in other situations, but it has no place here.-- Sincerely,Kenneth Grome-------------------------------------------------------------Outsource your WebDNA programming for $18 an hour or less!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com>.To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <WebDNA-Talk-off@talk.smithmicro.com>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <WebDNA-Talk-digest@talk.smithmicro.com>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/

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