Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro

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texte = I will agree with Donovan on this one. I started my Internet programming career in 1994 using Perl+miniSQL. Then I switched to StormCloud+mySQL, but they went bankrupt so I switched to Cold Fusion+MS-SQL, then to VB/ASP+MS-SQL, then to WebDNA. With each language I build at least 1 ENORMOUS web site that was rather remarkable. Recently I've been forced to learn a bit of PHP and I can't stand how C++ like it is. I can't believe people are still willing to spend so much time programming in languages like PHP. Recently my partner and I realized that our production time for web projects from design to implementation has cut down to almost a quarter. It's because improved skills developing in the easy WebDNA system. Of course that means our income had dropped, but it's also the reason we are raising our programming prices for the first time in about 7 years. WebDNA + mySQL can only mean good things. It could also be the reason I need to upgrade my two 4.5.1 servers to the next level. I'm actually running Redhat 6.1 and 4.5.0 on one server and RedHat 7.1 and 4.5.1 on the other. Both are very stable. Okay so I do worry about hiring a programmer and having to train them in WebDNA. But that's a business issue I will deal with some day. And I do worry about brand name recognition of the WebDNA language, but so far it's not really been an issue with any of my customers. For those about to jump the fence to greener grass, good luck and best wishes. My personal opinion is that I'll never jump another fence unless someone pays me to. Matthew A Perosi Psi Prime, Inc. nj-singles.com ijo.com Donovan Brooke wrote: > Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> I just want to use the solution that's suggested by the biggest >> crowd, assuming their reasons make sense to me -- and so far they do. >> Looks like LAMP is the solution for the masses in the future. > > > > Not directed to just Ken per say... > I find some of the comments on this thread irritating. > > Hmm, I was barraded the other day for suggesting to someone how to get > a better response from the list. I would say suggesting competeing > products > to people is more a violation of ediquette. SMSI is a company who is > fighting a battle (to thrive in this marketplace). > > Let me say something about WebDNA. I've never needed another solution. > Though I haven't coded to multiple terabyte load balanced servers > as of yet, So far, I haven't had to say "I can't do that" to any of my > clients. I have matched, in one solution or another (or could match), > just about any feature you can find in any ecommerse site out there. > (I may find myself on the verge of insanity at times and haveing to > take migrane pills at the end of a project, but ....;-) > > The news about MySQL is just another sign that there *is* support behind > this product and they *are* listening to the developers. A good MySQL > module > is Huge! Maybe PHP has advantages... It is just my opinion that it is > not > interesting to hear folks threaten they are going to switch the first > chance they get. I keep hearing this from some folks on this list and > they > are still lurking here. Switch. Leave. Go live were the grass is > greener. > Or, stay and realize that you are staying because WebDNA is a valid, > useful and > good language. > > Rantfully yours, > Donovan > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Scott Anderson" 2003)
  2. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  3. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Lucas Rockwell 2003)
  4. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Scott Anderson" 2003)
  5. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Scott Anderson" 2003)
  6. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Glenn Busbin 2003)
  7. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  8. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Clint Davis 2003)
  9. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "flingo" 2003)
  10. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Nitai @ ComputerOil" 2003)
  11. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Alain Russell 2003)
  12. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Andrew Simpson" 2003)
  13. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Alain Russell 2003)
  14. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Nitai @ ComputerOil" 2003)
  15. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  16. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Nitai @ ComputerOil" 2003)
  17. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  18. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Alain Russell 2003)
  19. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  20. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Nitai @ ComputerOil" 2003)
  21. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  22. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Nitai @ ComputerOil" 2003)
  23. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Matthew A Perosi 2003)
  24. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Donovan Brooke 2003)
  25. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kalin Mintchev 2003)
  26. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Glenn Busbin 2003)
  27. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Andrew Simpson" 2003)
  28. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  29. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Stuart Tremain 2003)
  30. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( CN Stuff 2003)
  31. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Alain Russell 2003)
  32. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Scott Anderson" 2003)
  33. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  34. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  35. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Scott Anderson" 2003)
  36. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Andrew Simpson" 2003)
  37. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  38. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  39. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kalin Mintchev 2003)
  40. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  41. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "WebDna @" 2003)
  42. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kalin Mintchev 2003)
  43. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Andrew Thompson 2003)
  44. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  45. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  46. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  47. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Andrew Simpson" 2003)
  48. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kalin Mintchev 2003)
  49. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jesse Proudman 2003)
  50. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Andrew Thompson 2003)
  51. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  52. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Andrew Simpson" 2003)
  53. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Andrew Thompson 2003)
  54. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Andrew Simpson" 2003)
  55. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Andrew Thompson 2003)
  56. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( "Andrew Simpson" 2003)
  57. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Alain Russell 2003)
  58. Re: So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Marc Kaiwi 2003)
  59. So many lookers, hey smith micro ( Jeff Logan 2003)
I will agree with Donovan on this one. I started my Internet programming career in 1994 using Perl+miniSQL. Then I switched to StormCloud+mySQL, but they went bankrupt so I switched to Cold Fusion+MS-SQL, then to VB/ASP+MS-SQL, then to WebDNA. With each language I build at least 1 ENORMOUS web site that was rather remarkable. Recently I've been forced to learn a bit of PHP and I can't stand how C++ like it is. I can't believe people are still willing to spend so much time programming in languages like PHP. Recently my partner and I realized that our production time for web projects from design to implementation has cut down to almost a quarter. It's because improved skills developing in the easy WebDNA system. Of course that means our income had dropped, but it's also the reason we are raising our programming prices for the first time in about 7 years. WebDNA + mySQL can only mean good things. It could also be the reason I need to upgrade my two 4.5.1 servers to the next level. I'm actually running Redhat 6.1 and 4.5.0 on one server and RedHat 7.1 and 4.5.1 on the other. Both are very stable. Okay so I do worry about hiring a programmer and having to train them in WebDNA. But that's a business issue I will deal with some day. And I do worry about brand name recognition of the WebDNA language, but so far it's not really been an issue with any of my customers. For those about to jump the fence to greener grass, good luck and best wishes. My personal opinion is that I'll never jump another fence unless someone pays me to. Matthew A Perosi Psi Prime, Inc. nj-singles.com ijo.com Donovan Brooke wrote: > Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> I just want to use the solution that's suggested by the biggest >> crowd, assuming their reasons make sense to me -- and so far they do. >> Looks like LAMP is the solution for the masses in the future. > > > > Not directed to just Ken per say... > I find some of the comments on this thread irritating. > > Hmm, I was barraded the other day for suggesting to someone how to get > a better response from the list. I would say suggesting competeing > products > to people is more a violation of ediquette. SMSI is a company who is > fighting a battle (to thrive in this marketplace). > > Let me say something about WebDNA. I've never needed another solution. > Though I haven't coded to multiple terabyte load balanced servers > as of yet, So far, I haven't had to say "I can't do that" to any of my > clients. I have matched, in one solution or another (or could match), > just about any feature you can find in any ecommerse site out there. > (I may find myself on the verge of insanity at times and haveing to > take migrane pills at the end of a project, but ....;-) > > The news about MySQL is just another sign that there *is* support behind > this product and they *are* listening to the developers. A good MySQL > module > is Huge! Maybe PHP has advantages... It is just my opinion that it is > not > interesting to hear folks threaten they are going to switch the first > chance they get. I keep hearing this from some folks on this list and > they > are still lurking here. Switch. Leave. Go live were the grass is > greener. > Or, stay and realize that you are staying because WebDNA is a valid, > useful and > good language. > > Rantfully yours, > Donovan > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Matthew A Perosi

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