Re: Sitebuilder

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2004


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 56424
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texte = Greg, What was done to Sitebuilder isn't a patch ... we basically completely rewrote all aspects of administering the look & feel, content, navigation, and security of a WebDNA website. I agree that we do now need to focus some attention on making the eCommerce aspects of administration more robust. Given the time we had available, most people we spoke to were able to use the existing eCommerce capabilities, but found the old Storebuilder almost useless as a framework for creating their own custom sites. So we attacked the areas that our customers were telling us needed the most attention. The other new piece in Sitebuilder that we haven't really discussed is that the content administration is all database driven, i.e., there's a concept of 'packages' of functionality, and when you create a new Sitebuilder based website, you basically tell it what 'package' it is, and thus what functionality will be available in the administrative area. Why is this important? If you as a WebDNA developer want to use SiteBuilder as a 'framework' for deploying your own custom solutions, you can customize the content of these 'packages' and deploy them over and over. If you want your allow customers to pay you a fee to 'upgrade' from one package to another without starting over, you simply change the 'package' of the website and the additional features just show up in your client's admin. If you have some feedback after using the new SiteBuilder, I'd be happy to look at your suggestions for future enhancements =20 Phil B.=20 -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Gregg Luhring Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:26 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Sitebuilder Sorry about this but it seems like what you're saying is that basically it's the same big confusing mess that it's grown into over the years but you added more stuff to make it more confusing? The sitebuilder badly needs a replacement, not more patches please. Gregg on 2/26/04 at 4:12 PM pbonesteele@smithmicro.com (Phillip Bonesteele) wrote: -- > >The major changes in SiteBuilder were in the overall site layout,=20 >navigation, and 'built-in' Intranet functionality, while the basic=20 >WebMerchant pieces did't change much. Clearly, looking at the payment=20 >processor area is a good area to focus some attention in the future. > >Phil B. > >-----Original Message----- >From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of >Donovan Brooke >Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:35 AM >To: WebDNA Talk >Subject: Sitebuilder > >Hello, >I haven't started with the upgrade yet but I had a question... > >How are Sitebuilders "link-ups" to the main gateways? Phil, can you=20 >comment if there was any changes from the most recent storebuilder code >for this? For example, was there support added for e-checks and other=20 >payment methods offered by PayFlo Pro? > > >Thanks, >Donovan > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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Greg, What was done to Sitebuilder isn't a patch ... we basically completely rewrote all aspects of administering the look & feel, content, navigation, and security of a WebDNA website. I agree that we do now need to focus some attention on making the eCommerce aspects of administration more robust. Given the time we had available, most people we spoke to were able to use the existing eCommerce capabilities, but found the old Storebuilder almost useless as a framework for creating their own custom sites. So we attacked the areas that our customers were telling us needed the most attention. The other new piece in Sitebuilder that we haven't really discussed is that the content administration is all database driven, i.e., there's a concept of 'packages' of functionality, and when you create a new Sitebuilder based website, you basically tell it what 'package' it is, and thus what functionality will be available in the administrative area. Why is this important? If you as a WebDNA developer want to use SiteBuilder as a 'framework' for deploying your own custom solutions, you can customize the content of these 'packages' and deploy them over and over. If you want your allow customers to pay you a fee to 'upgrade' from one package to another without starting over, you simply change the 'package' of the website and the additional features just show up in your client's admin. If you have some feedback after using the new SiteBuilder, I'd be happy to look at your suggestions for future enhancements =20 Phil B.=20 -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Gregg Luhring Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:26 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Sitebuilder Sorry about this but it seems like what you're saying is that basically it's the same big confusing mess that it's grown into over the years but you added more stuff to make it more confusing? The sitebuilder badly needs a replacement, not more patches please. Gregg on 2/26/04 at 4:12 PM pbonesteele@smithmicro.com (Phillip Bonesteele) wrote: -- > >The major changes in SiteBuilder were in the overall site layout,=20 >navigation, and 'built-in' Intranet functionality, while the basic=20 >WebMerchant pieces did't change much. Clearly, looking at the payment=20 >processor area is a good area to focus some attention in the future. > >Phil B. > >-----Original Message----- >From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of >Donovan Brooke >Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:35 AM >To: WebDNA Talk >Subject: Sitebuilder > >Hello, >I haven't started with the upgrade yet but I had a question... > >How are Sitebuilders "link-ups" to the main gateways? Phil, can you=20 >comment if there was any changes from the most recent storebuilder code >for this? For example, was there support added for e-checks and other=20 >payment methods offered by PayFlo Pro? > > >Thanks, >Donovan > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Phillip Bonesteele"

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