Re: Annoying character on writefile...
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2004
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Nor did I say there was a bug in WebCat. The problem is the data that is being captured, not the code, or the program. That is why I use a grep expression to scrub the character out. All of our files are created in Unix from start to finish, it is not a matter of moving from one environment to another, it is a question of garbage in. >I know, I was actually posting my response for the benefit of the >person who claimed that writefile has a bug in it. Some people fail >to understand the cause of webdna's behavior in certain situations, >that's all ... :) > >>I never claimed otherwise! :D >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome"
>>To: "WebDNA Talk" >>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:00 PM >>Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... >> >>>You should expect this to happen, that's what it's supposed to do. >>>Just because you don't see carriage return characters when >>>creating a file on Windows or on Mac OS 9 does not mean they are >>>not there! >>> >>>Mac OS 9 uses CR's as new line characters. Windows uses a CR-LF >>>combination. UNIX uses only LF's. >>> >>>So when you put a Windows or Mac OS 9 file (with invisible CR's in >>>it) on a server running UNIX, the CR's are still in the files, so >>>of course they will be written to the new file! Why would you >>>expect anything else? >>> >>>It's not a bug in the webdna software, it's a bug in the human >>>software ... :) >>> >>>Sincerely, >>>Kenneth Grome >>>www.kengrome.com >>> >>>>Actually, we get it too. It is when we save the file that does >>>>the WRITEFILE. If this file is created on a PC and the file is >>>>used on a UNIX server. It has to do with the CR or LF not being >>>>formatted correctly. >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" >>>>To: "WebDNA Talk" >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:20 PM >>>>Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... >>>> >>>>> >I get that character with nearly everything I write to file or >>>>>even to >data base. I am not sure where it comes from, but it >>>>>gets there by >itself, not from being added. >>>>> >>>>>Where does it appear in the file? In the middle somewhere? Or >>>>>always at the beginning? Or always at the end? >>>>> >>>>>Sorry, I do not believe that webdna is doing ths without your >>>>>help. No one else has ever complained about this -- you're the >>>>>first -- yet WebDNA for OS X has been out for ages already ... >>>>>and I don't think it is very likely that all the other >>>>>webdna/osx users would have been able to ignore this issue if it >>>>>were actually a bug. >>>>> >>>>>Of course I could be wrong about this, but I suspect your coding >>>>>techniques far more than a possible bug. If you write code >>>>>like this: >>>>> >>>>>[writefile] >>>>>skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls >>>>>[/writefile] >>>>> >>>>>... you're putting two of those characters in there yourself, >>>>>one at the beginning and one at the end of the file. The proper >>>>>way to code a writefile context is like this: >>>>> >>>>>[writefile]skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls[/writefile] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>By the way, you also claim that these characters are being >>>>>written to your database files, but I fail to understand how >>>>>this can happen either. Please post some of your code to show us >>>>>how these characters are they being written to your database >>>>>files, then maybe we can figure out what's really going on ... >>>>> >>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>>www.kengrome.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I never had the problem when I was on Mac OS 9, but under OS X, >>>>>>and now Linux, I have it all the time. I suspect a connection. >>>>>> >>>>>>>If you don't want the character in there, all you have to do >>>>>>>is make sure it does not appear in your writefile context. >>>>>>>WebDNA only writes what you tell it to write, it does not add >>>>>>>stray characters on its own ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>www.kengrome.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[grep search=[ ]&replace=][/grep] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Is what I do, but I would love to find an answer to keeping >>>>>>>>the character out of there in the first place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Does anyone know hwo to get rid of or conver the following >>>>>>>>>character during a writefile ? I am trying to write >>>>>>>>>database information to an xml document to feed a flash app >>>>>>>>>but it is bugging out with this character, I have also run >>>>>>>>>into difficulties with it before when generating an html >>>>>>>>>mail by write a file after the mail has been created. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Any suggestions are very welcome. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>>>Alan >>> >>>-- >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >-- > >Sincerely, >Kenneth Grome >www.kengrome.com > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Nor did I say there was a bug in WebCat. The problem is the data that is being captured, not the code, or the program. That is why I use a grep expression to scrub the character out. All of our files are created in Unix from start to finish, it is not a matter of moving from one environment to another, it is a question of garbage in. >I know, I was actually posting my response for the benefit of the >person who claimed that writefile has a bug in it. Some people fail >to understand the cause of webdna's behavior in certain situations, >that's all ... :) > >>I never claimed otherwise! :D >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" >>To: "WebDNA Talk" >>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:00 PM >>Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... >> >>>You should expect this to happen, that's what it's supposed to do. >>>Just because you don't see carriage return characters when >>>creating a file on Windows or on Mac OS 9 does not mean they are >>>not there! >>> >>>Mac OS 9 uses CR's as new line characters. Windows uses a CR-LF >>>combination. UNIX uses only LF's. >>> >>>So when you put a Windows or Mac OS 9 file (with invisible CR's in >>>it) on a server running UNIX, the CR's are still in the files, so >>>of course they will be written to the new file! Why would you >>>expect anything else? >>> >>>It's not a bug in the webdna software, it's a bug in the human >>>software ... :) >>> >>>Sincerely, >>>Kenneth Grome >>>www.kengrome.com >>> >>>>Actually, we get it too. It is when we save the file that does >>>>the WRITEFILE. If this file is created on a PC and the file is >>>>used on a UNIX server. It has to do with the CR or LF not being >>>>formatted correctly. >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" >>>>To: "WebDNA Talk" >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:20 PM >>>>Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... >>>> >>>>> >I get that character with nearly everything I write to file or >>>>>even to >data base. I am not sure where it comes from, but it >>>>>gets there by >itself, not from being added. >>>>> >>>>>Where does it appear in the file? In the middle somewhere? Or >>>>>always at the beginning? Or always at the end? >>>>> >>>>>Sorry, I do not believe that webdna is doing ths without your >>>>>help. No one else has ever complained about this -- you're the >>>>>first -- yet WebDNA for OS X has been out for ages already ... >>>>>and I don't think it is very likely that all the other >>>>>webdna/osx users would have been able to ignore this issue if it >>>>>were actually a bug. >>>>> >>>>>Of course I could be wrong about this, but I suspect your coding >>>>>techniques far more than a possible bug. If you write code >>>>>like this: >>>>> >>>>>[writefile] >>>>>skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls >>>>>[/writefile] >>>>> >>>>>... you're putting two of those characters in there yourself, >>>>>one at the beginning and one at the end of the file. The proper >>>>>way to code a writefile context is like this: >>>>> >>>>>[writefile]skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls[/writefile] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>By the way, you also claim that these characters are being >>>>>written to your database files, but I fail to understand how >>>>>this can happen either. Please post some of your code to show us >>>>>how these characters are they being written to your database >>>>>files, then maybe we can figure out what's really going on ... >>>>> >>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>>www.kengrome.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I never had the problem when I was on Mac OS 9, but under OS X, >>>>>>and now Linux, I have it all the time. I suspect a connection. >>>>>> >>>>>>>If you don't want the character in there, all you have to do >>>>>>>is make sure it does not appear in your writefile context. >>>>>>>WebDNA only writes what you tell it to write, it does not add >>>>>>>stray characters on its own ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>www.kengrome.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[grep search=[ ]&replace=][/grep] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Is what I do, but I would love to find an answer to keeping >>>>>>>>the character out of there in the first place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Does anyone know hwo to get rid of or conver the following >>>>>>>>>character during a writefile ? I am trying to write >>>>>>>>>database information to an xml document to feed a flash app >>>>>>>>>but it is bugging out with this character, I have also run >>>>>>>>>into difficulties with it before when generating an html >>>>>>>>>mail by write a file after the mail has been created. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Any suggestions are very welcome. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>>>Alan >>> >>>-- >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >-- > >Sincerely, >Kenneth Grome >www.kengrome.com > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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