Re: Annoying character on writefile...

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2004


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = I never claimed otherwise! :D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" To: "WebDNA Talk" Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... > You should expect this to happen, that's what it's supposed to do. Just > because you don't see carriage return characters when creating a file on > Windows or on Mac OS 9 does not mean they are not there! > > Mac OS 9 uses CR's as new line characters. Windows uses a CR-LF > combination. UNIX uses only LF's. > > So when you put a Windows or Mac OS 9 file (with invisible CR's in it) on > a server running UNIX, the CR's are still in the files, so of course they > will be written to the new file! Why would you expect anything else? > > It's not a bug in the webdna software, it's a bug in the human software > ... :) > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > www.kengrome.com > > > >>Actually, we get it too. It is when we save the file that does the >>WRITEFILE. If this file is created on a PC and the file is used on a UNIX >>server. It has to do with the CR or LF not being formatted correctly. >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" >>To: "WebDNA Talk" >>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:20 PM >>Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... >> >>> >I get that character with nearly everything I write to file or even to >>> >data base. I am not sure where it comes from, but it gets there by >>> >itself, not from being added. >>> >>>Where does it appear in the file? In the middle somewhere? Or always at >>>the beginning? Or always at the end? >>> >>>Sorry, I do not believe that webdna is doing ths without your help. No >>>one else has ever complained about this -- you're the first -- >>>yet WebDNA for OS X has been out for ages already ... and I don't think >>>it is very likely that all the other webdna/osx users would have been >>>able to ignore this issue if it were actually a bug. >>> >>>Of course I could be wrong about this, but I suspect your coding >>>techniques far more than a possible bug. If you write code like this: >>> >>>[writefile] >>>skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls >>>[/writefile] >>> >>>... you're putting two of those characters in there yourself, one at the >>>beginning and one at the end of the file. The proper way to code a >>>writefile context is like this: >>> >>>[writefile]skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls[/writefile] >>> >>> >>> >>>By the way, you also claim that these characters are being written to >>>your database files, but I fail to understand how this can happen either. >>>Please post some of your code to show us how these characters are they >>>being written to your database files, then maybe we can figure out what's >>>really going on ... >>> >>>Sincerely, >>>Kenneth Grome >>>www.kengrome.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I never had the problem when I was on Mac OS 9, but under OS X, and now >>>>Linux, I have it all the time. I suspect a connection. >>>> >>>>>If you don't want the character in there, all you have to do is make >>>>>sure it does not appear in your writefile context. WebDNA only writes >>>>>what you tell it to write, it does not add stray characters on its own >>>>>... >>>>> >>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>>www.kengrome.com >>>>> >>>>>>[grep search=[ ]&replace=][/grep] >>>>>> >>>>>>Is what I do, but I would love to find an answer to keeping the >>>>>>character out of there in the first place. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Does anyone know hwo to get rid of or conver the following character >>>>>>>during a writefile ? I am trying to write database information to an >>>>>>>xml document to feed a flash app but it is bugging out with this >>>>>>>character, I have also run into difficulties with it before when >>>>>>>generating an html mail by write a file after the mail has been >>>>>>>created. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Any suggestions are very welcome. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>Alan > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( "Sal D'Anna" 2004)
  2. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( Stephen Reiss 2004)
  3. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
  4. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( "WebDna @ Inkblot Media" 2004)
  5. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
  6. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( "WebDna @ Inkblot Media" 2004)
  7. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
  8. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( Stephen Reiss 2004)
  9. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
  10. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( matthew.bohne@benetela.com 2004)
  11. Re: Annoying character on writefile... ( Stephen Reiss 2004)
  12. Annoying character on writefile... ( Alan White 2004)
I never claimed otherwise! :D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" To: "WebDNA Talk" Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... > You should expect this to happen, that's what it's supposed to do. Just > because you don't see carriage return characters when creating a file on > Windows or on Mac OS 9 does not mean they are not there! > > Mac OS 9 uses CR's as new line characters. Windows uses a CR-LF > combination. UNIX uses only LF's. > > So when you put a Windows or Mac OS 9 file (with invisible CR's in it) on > a server running UNIX, the CR's are still in the files, so of course they > will be written to the new file! Why would you expect anything else? > > It's not a bug in the webdna software, it's a bug in the human software > ... :) > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > www.kengrome.com > > > >>Actually, we get it too. It is when we save the file that does the >>WRITEFILE. If this file is created on a PC and the file is used on a UNIX >>server. It has to do with the CR or LF not being formatted correctly. >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" >>To: "WebDNA Talk" >>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:20 PM >>Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... >> >>> >I get that character with nearly everything I write to file or even to >>> >data base. I am not sure where it comes from, but it gets there by >>> >itself, not from being added. >>> >>>Where does it appear in the file? In the middle somewhere? Or always at >>>the beginning? Or always at the end? >>> >>>Sorry, I do not believe that webdna is doing ths without your help. No >>>one else has ever complained about this -- you're the first -- >>>yet WebDNA for OS X has been out for ages already ... and I don't think >>>it is very likely that all the other webdna/osx users would have been >>>able to ignore this issue if it were actually a bug. >>> >>>Of course I could be wrong about this, but I suspect your coding >>>techniques far more than a possible bug. If you write code like this: >>> >>>[writefile] >>>skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls >>>[/writefile] >>> >>>... you're putting two of those characters in there yourself, one at the >>>beginning and one at the end of the file. The proper way to code a >>>writefile context is like this: >>> >>>[writefile]skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls[/writefile] >>> >>> >>> >>>By the way, you also claim that these characters are being written to >>>your database files, but I fail to understand how this can happen either. >>>Please post some of your code to show us how these characters are they >>>being written to your database files, then maybe we can figure out what's >>>really going on ... >>> >>>Sincerely, >>>Kenneth Grome >>>www.kengrome.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I never had the problem when I was on Mac OS 9, but under OS X, and now >>>>Linux, I have it all the time. I suspect a connection. >>>> >>>>>If you don't want the character in there, all you have to do is make >>>>>sure it does not appear in your writefile context. WebDNA only writes >>>>>what you tell it to write, it does not add stray characters on its own >>>>>... >>>>> >>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>>www.kengrome.com >>>>> >>>>>>[grep search=[ ]&replace=][/grep] >>>>>> >>>>>>Is what I do, but I would love to find an answer to keeping the >>>>>>character out of there in the first place. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Does anyone know hwo to get rid of or conver the following character >>>>>>>during a writefile ? I am trying to write database information to an >>>>>>>xml document to feed a flash app but it is bugging out with this >>>>>>>character, I have also run into difficulties with it before when >>>>>>>generating an html mail by write a file after the mail has been >>>>>>>created. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Any suggestions are very welcome. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>Alan > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "WebDna @ Inkblot Media"

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