Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search)

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2006


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texte = You are right. Rudyonrails looks pretty good. I am exploring = OpenLaszlo.org that allows plug-n-play AJAX or Flash. It may be even = faster to deliver the functionality. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of devaulw@onebox.com Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:30 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) Using, no. Experimenting, yes. I think John also said he was looking = into it. =20 I never cared for PHP since that was just another scripting language. = PHP and WebDNA are the same from that perspective. Ruby on Rails is = different though.=20 One issue with Ruby on Rails is that one needs to know/learn Ruby (a = language) and then learn Rails (a framework). Ruby is an object = oriented language -- this is conceptually different from scripting = languages in many respects. =20 Rails is a framework. It basically sets up convenient places to put = parts of your web application and gives a number of tools that tie the = application to a database and provide some very useful built-in methods = that make creating applications simple and adding features very, very = easy. It strives to prevent code duplication (write once, use = everywhere in your app -- they call it DRY for don't repeat yourself). =20 The real kicker is that Rails makes it unbelievably easy to add lots of = nice AJAX type functionality.=20 Given that Rails is a framework, others are using it as a model to = create frameworks in PHP, Python and other languages. I haven't seen = any effort in WebDNA on this front to build a framework other than = storebuilder and that is more of a generator than a framework that would = work for any application. =20 I was drawn to Rails when I saw some of the screencasts that showed how = easy it was to create a blog for example. That was something that = people on the WebDNA list had talked about putting together as an OS = project. With Rails, a basic blog can be done in about fifteen minutes = (assuming you've invested in the learning curve). Bill -----Original Message----- From: Clint Davis Sent: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:11:24 -0500 To: "WebDNA Talk" Subject: Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) As a sidenote... Is anyone on the list using Ruby on Rails? I don't have any experience = with it, but it's potential is very attractive. On 4/6/06 9:04 AM, "devaulw@onebox.com" wrote: > Back on the data structure, I just read last night about the = "acts_as_tree" > model method in Rails. That seems like it would work really well to = handle the > self-referential tree structure originally set out. Of course, you'd = have to > be using Rails first.=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  2. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  3. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Gary Krockover 2006)
  4. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( devaulw@onebox.com 2006)
  5. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( chas conquest 2006)
  6. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  7. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( chas conquest 2006)
  8. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( chas conquest 2006)
  9. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  10. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( devaulw@onebox.com 2006)
  11. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Pat McCormick 2006)
  12. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( devaulw@onebox.com 2006)
  13. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Brian Fries 2006)
  14. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  15. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Gary Krockover 2006)
  16. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Adam O'Connor 2006)
  17. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( chas conquest 2006)
  18. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  19. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  20. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( nitai@computeroil.com 2006)
  21. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( "Bess Ho" 2006)
  22. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( j.list@blueboxdev.com 2006)
  23. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( devaulw@onebox.com 2006)
  24. Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) ( Clint Davis 2006)
You are right. Rudyonrails looks pretty good. I am exploring = OpenLaszlo.org that allows plug-n-play AJAX or Flash. It may be even = faster to deliver the functionality. -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of devaulw@onebox.com Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:30 AM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) Using, no. Experimenting, yes. I think John also said he was looking = into it. =20 I never cared for PHP since that was just another scripting language. = PHP and WebDNA are the same from that perspective. Ruby on Rails is = different though.=20 One issue with Ruby on Rails is that one needs to know/learn Ruby (a = language) and then learn Rails (a framework). Ruby is an object = oriented language -- this is conceptually different from scripting = languages in many respects. =20 Rails is a framework. It basically sets up convenient places to put = parts of your web application and gives a number of tools that tie the = application to a database and provide some very useful built-in methods = that make creating applications simple and adding features very, very = easy. It strives to prevent code duplication (write once, use = everywhere in your app -- they call it DRY for don't repeat yourself). =20 The real kicker is that Rails makes it unbelievably easy to add lots of = nice AJAX type functionality.=20 Given that Rails is a framework, others are using it as a model to = create frameworks in PHP, Python and other languages. I haven't seen = any effort in WebDNA on this front to build a framework other than = storebuilder and that is more of a generator than a framework that would = work for any application. =20 I was drawn to Rails when I saw some of the screencasts that showed how = easy it was to create a blog for example. That was something that = people on the WebDNA list had talked about putting together as an OS = project. With Rails, a basic blog can be done in about fifteen minutes = (assuming you've invested in the learning curve). Bill -----Original Message----- From: Clint Davis Sent: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:11:24 -0500 To: "WebDNA Talk" Subject: Re: Ruby on Rails (was Looping Search) As a sidenote... Is anyone on the list using Ruby on Rails? I don't have any experience = with it, but it's potential is very attractive. On 4/6/06 9:04 AM, "devaulw@onebox.com" wrote: > Back on the data structure, I just read last night about the = "acts_as_tree" > model method in Rails. That seems like it would work really well to = handle the > self-referential tree structure originally set out. Of course, you'd = have to > be using Rails first.=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Bess Ho"

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