Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x
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texte = On 7/8/01 11:38 PM, The Defendant Dale Therio
Confessed:> Aaron, > > What kind of load do you have on this machine? Do you feel > comfortable running both CGate and WC based sites on your one > box? Very light load on this particular machine. It is a k-8 private school. 1 web site, and this year we will have 500 mail users.It is mostly a mail server. And that side does a fair amount, 80 users was strangling webstar last school year. I would not normally have web/mail be the same box. But I needed webcat to be able to manipulate mailing lists, etc, and it was easier this way. And as I said, on the web side the load is very light.I feel moderately comfortable with the setup now that retrospect has a backup solution. Generally I feel 1 service per machine is preferable. It wasn't possible for the school though. We'll see how she holds up in September :)> > My primary site does about 2.5 million pages a month all running > through WC (currently on Mac OS with WebStar). My email is > pretty light, but once I get the new machine and implement some > new features, I expect to grow to about 1000-1500 email account > with CGate - most using the web interface but many also using > pop3. > > This in addition to about 100 websites (most only getting maybe > 100 page views per month), and a perl/mysql based banner ad > solution. > > I currently have the following setup: > G4 - Mac OS 9.x - WebStar > 100 domains - most light usage > 1 domain getting 2.5 million page views per month, all WC > Summary (currently not running due to log size/processing time) > SIMS - to pass site generated emails to CGatePro > > G4 - PPC Linux > CGatePro - 200 accounts, 6 mailing lists > mysql - running a banner ad solution for websites > > I expect to get to 5 million page views per month within 6 > months of the new features being implemented on the primary > site, and 1000-1500 email accounts. > > The banner ad solution usage will actually stay about the same I > think. However, I will also be adding more websites, e.g. > member.domain.com > > I will also be running QDNS on both machines. You mean running BIND and administering with QDNS manager?> > So with the above, what is you opinion as to running 1 machine > or 2? I am planning on purchasing one of the new Macs to be > released at MacWorld nex week as the new webserver as that is > where most of my usage comes from. > > Thanks > > DaleI would stick with 2. Unless there is a compelling reason not to, (are you colocating?> Also, if theses are DNS, then FOR sure you need 2 DNS and 2 mail servers of some sort. (they can back each other up) We also maintain a machine off site that is DNS and mail. > p.s. would you go with Mac OSXS v2 or the Mac OS X client, and > why? (No appleshare needed here).Uhm.... That's a bit tougher. I would _probably_ stay with client. The admin app isn't OSXS isn't really that great. (I still had to edit httpd.conf by hand) > > > On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 10:23:28 > Aaron Lynch wrote: >> I just set up a server with OSXS 2, Webcat 4 and Communigate >> pro. >> >> >> I had a hard time with multiple IP's, but worked around that. >> (the multiple >> IP setup in the manual is flat wrong) >> >> I also had a weird issue with apache spawning processes and >> then dying. >> That was fixed by turning off Apache log rolling. >> >> >> Other than that, it was pretty straightforward. (and a dual >> 533 with 1.5G >> ram seems to scream pretty well :) ... Fast enough for me >> anyway. >> >> >> >> >> On 7/8/01 10:15 AM, The Defendant Glenn Busbin >> >> Confessed: >> >>>> >>>> >>>> If so, what are your experiences. I am looking to purchase >> a new >>>> machine after MacWorld and I expect the new machines will >> not >>>> allow me to run Mac OS 9.x so it looks like my transition >> to Mac >>>> OS X will come sooner than originally planned. >>> >>> I'm not so sure. An Apple software engineer named >> Quattlebaum (or something >>> like that) did a Joy of X demo at our last Mac user group >> meeting. Of >>> course, he didn't say anything bad about X, but from his >> smiles and >>> mannerisms, I could tell he recognizes its current >> limitations for most users. >>> (When he started working at Apple, his boss told him that >> he could say >>> anything he wanted...on his last day at work.) >>> >>> Quattlebaum also talked about the transition from the >> Classic OS to X for >>> developers. While it's a relatively easy transition, Apple >> knows that it won't >>> happen overnight and that's why it will keep the dual OS >> deal on all Macs made >>> for the foreseeable future. >>> >>> Apple is also under a bit of pressure to improve the >> interface in X to make it >>> more user friendly, especially for those with little >> computer experience. >>> >>> Personally, I enjoyed playing with his Dual USB iBook and >> TiG4 more than >>> learning about X. >>> >>> Glenn >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: >> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >> -- >> A good scapegoat is almost as good as a solution. > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history. ...Governor George W. 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On 7/8/01 11:38 PM, The Defendant Dale Therio Confessed:> Aaron, > > What kind of load do you have on this machine? Do you feel > comfortable running both CGate and WC based sites on your one > box? Very light load on this particular machine. It is a k-8 private school. 1 web site, and this year we will have 500 mail users.It is mostly a mail server. And that side does a fair amount, 80 users was strangling webstar last school year. I would not normally have web/mail be the same box. But I needed webcat to be able to manipulate mailing lists, etc, and it was easier this way. And as I said, on the web side the load is very light.I feel moderately comfortable with the setup now that retrospect has a backup solution. Generally I feel 1 service per machine is preferable. It wasn't possible for the school though. We'll see how she holds up in September :)> > My primary site does about 2.5 million pages a month all running > through WC (currently on Mac OS with WebStar). My email is > pretty light, but once I get the new machine and implement some > new features, I expect to grow to about 1000-1500 email account > with CGate - most using the web interface but many also using > pop3. > > This in addition to about 100 websites (most only getting maybe > 100 page views per month), and a perl/mysql based banner ad > solution. > > I currently have the following setup: > G4 - Mac OS 9.x - WebStar > 100 domains - most light usage > 1 domain getting 2.5 million page views per month, all WC > Summary (currently not running due to log size/processing time) > SIMS - to pass site generated emails to CGatePro > > G4 - PPC Linux > CGatePro - 200 accounts, 6 mailing lists > mysql - running a banner ad solution for websites > > I expect to get to 5 million page views per month within 6 > months of the new features being implemented on the primary > site, and 1000-1500 email accounts. > > The banner ad solution usage will actually stay about the same I > think. However, I will also be adding more websites, e.g. > member.domain.com > > I will also be running QDNS on both machines. You mean running BIND and administering with QDNS manager?> > So with the above, what is you opinion as to running 1 machine > or 2? I am planning on purchasing one of the new Macs to be > released at MacWorld nex week as the new webserver as that is > where most of my usage comes from. > > Thanks > > DaleI would stick with 2. Unless there is a compelling reason not to, (are you colocating?> Also, if theses are DNS, then FOR sure you need 2 DNS and 2 mail servers of some sort. (they can back each other up) We also maintain a machine off site that is DNS and mail. > p.s. would you go with Mac OSXS v2 or the Mac OS X client, and > why? (No appleshare needed here).Uhm.... That's a bit tougher. I would _probably_ stay with client. The admin app isn't OSXS isn't really that great. (I still had to edit httpd.conf by hand) > > > On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 10:23:28 > Aaron Lynch wrote: >> I just set up a server with OSXS 2, Webcat 4 and Communigate >> pro. >> >> >> I had a hard time with multiple IP's, but worked around that. >> (the multiple >> IP setup in the manual is flat wrong) >> >> I also had a weird issue with apache spawning processes and >> then dying. >> That was fixed by turning off Apache log rolling. >> >> >> Other than that, it was pretty straightforward. (and a dual >> 533 with 1.5G >> ram seems to scream pretty well :) ... Fast enough for me >> anyway. >> >> >> >> >> On 7/8/01 10:15 AM, The Defendant Glenn Busbin >> >> Confessed: >> >>>> >>>> >>>> If so, what are your experiences. I am looking to purchase >> a new >>>> machine after MacWorld and I expect the new machines will >> not >>>> allow me to run Mac OS 9.x so it looks like my transition >> to Mac >>>> OS X will come sooner than originally planned. >>> >>> I'm not so sure. An Apple software engineer named >> Quattlebaum (or something >>> like that) did a Joy of X demo at our last Mac user group >> meeting. Of >>> course, he didn't say anything bad about X, but from his >> smiles and >>> mannerisms, I could tell he recognizes its current >> limitations for most users. >>> (When he started working at Apple, his boss told him that >> he could say >>> anything he wanted...on his last day at work.) >>> >>> Quattlebaum also talked about the transition from the >> Classic OS to X for >>> developers. While it's a relatively easy transition, Apple >> knows that it won't >>> happen overnight and that's why it will keep the dual OS >> deal on all Macs made >>> for the foreseeable future. >>> >>> Apple is also under a bit of pressure to improve the >> interface in X to make it >>> more user friendly, especially for those with little >> computer experience. >>> >>> Personally, I enjoyed playing with his Dual USB iBook and >> TiG4 more than >>> learning about X. >>> >>> Glenn >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: >> http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >> -- >> A good scapegoat is almost as good as a solution. > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history. ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr. ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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