Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-(

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2009


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 102237
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texte = I'm using this code right now. I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it seems to work for most smart phones I've tested.... Although it's not tested on the iPhone. [text]accept=[GETMIMEHEADER name=Accept][/text] [text]celldetected=[/text] [showif [url][accept][/url]=[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] [text]wapagent=T[/text] [/showif] [showif [wapagent]=T] [text]celldetected=T[/text] [/showif] [showif [celldetected]=T] [redirect url=/mobi/index.tpl] [/showif] Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. Totowa, NJ 07512 Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 Service: 973.413.8213 Training: 973.413.8214 Fax: 973.413.8217 http://www.jewelerwebsites.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc http://www.psiprime.com Rob wrote: > Dan, > > I just got involved due to a technical request, and haven't had much > to do with the site involved. I think its just being handled > generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer blackberry's > and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older styles a lot of > positional elements are off. It looks like its just set to a standard > width of 320. I know the person working on it is on this list, and its > up to him if he wishes to expand on it more. > > The detection was actually the easy part, and even easier now with the > list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and detect size as > well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump them all in, > and months to find them all. With the shelf live of must phones, I > think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here is a link to the > file I used, but for the most part, I went thru some of the server > logs for the site involved, as the list didn't seem up to date. I > haven't even heard of half these things.... > > http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip > > More info, as well as files, at this link: > http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-discussion-index/ > > > And what I'm currently using is this: > --------------- > [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Samsung")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Casio")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "T-Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket > PC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera > Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Cingular")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows > CE")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content > Viewer")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML > Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Nokia")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera > 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Reqwirelessweb")] > [Then][REDIRECT url=mobile/index.html][/Then] > [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its self [/Else] > [/if] > ------------------- > > Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization for this area > in that industry. ... :-( > > Rob > > > On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >> Rob, >> >> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are handling >> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not yet >> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices as I can so >> I can serve mobile-friendly content. >> >> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source ( >> http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant >> (for my purposes) data and would require what appears to be a great >> deal of work and constant upkeep, and/or >> >> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script. Haven't tried it. >> Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do things via WebDNA. >> >> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size is under, >> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that won't always work >> since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >> >> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most popular >> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them all. It would >> be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard descriptor to >> their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or somethinglike that. >> Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >> >> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this with a >> single line of code" response ** >> -Dan >> >> >> >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >> Rob wrote: >>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>> Rob >>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> Rob wrote: >>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead of my >>>>> own... got to used to working alone before the revival .. ;-) >>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>> >>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>> >>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>> >>>> >>>> Donovan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>> VP >>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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  13. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( ("Dan Strong" 2009)
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  19. [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
I'm using this code right now. I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it seems to work for most smart phones I've tested.... Although it's not tested on the iPhone. [text]accept=[GETMIMEHEADER name=Accept][/text] [text]celldetected=[/text] [showif [url][accept][/url]=[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] [text]wapagent=T[/text] [/showif] [showif [wapagent]=T] [text]celldetected=T[/text] [/showif] [showif [celldetected]=T] [redirect url=/mobi/index.tpl] [/showif] Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. Totowa, NJ 07512 Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 Service: 973.413.8213 Training: 973.413.8214 Fax: 973.413.8217 http://www.jewelerwebsites.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc http://www.psiprime.com Rob wrote: > Dan, > > I just got involved due to a technical request, and haven't had much > to do with the site involved. I think its just being handled > generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer blackberry's > and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older styles a lot of > positional elements are off. It looks like its just set to a standard > width of 320. I know the person working on it is on this list, and its > up to him if he wishes to expand on it more. > > The detection was actually the easy part, and even easier now with the > list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and detect size as > well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump them all in, > and months to find them all. With the shelf live of must phones, I > think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here is a link to the > file I used, but for the most part, I went thru some of the server > logs for the site involved, as the list didn't seem up to date. I > haven't even heard of half these things.... > > http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip > > More info, as well as files, at this link: > http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-discussion-index/ > > > And what I'm currently using is this: > --------------- > [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Samsung")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Casio")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "T-Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket > PC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera > Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Cingular")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows > CE")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content > Viewer")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML > Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Nokia")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ > "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera > 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Reqwirelessweb")] > [Then][REDIRECT url=mobile/index.html][/Then] > [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its self [/Else] > [/if] > ------------------- > > Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization for this area > in that industry. ... :-( > > Rob > > > On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >> Rob, >> >> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are handling >> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not yet >> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices as I can so >> I can serve mobile-friendly content. >> >> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source ( >> http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant >> (for my purposes) data and would require what appears to be a great >> deal of work and constant upkeep, and/or >> >> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script. Haven't tried it. >> Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do things via WebDNA. >> >> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size is under, >> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that won't always work >> since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >> >> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most popular >> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them all. It would >> be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard descriptor to >> their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or somethinglike that. >> Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >> >> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this with a >> single line of code" response ** >> -Dan >> >> >> >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >> Rob wrote: >>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>> Rob >>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> Rob wrote: >>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead of my >>>>> own... got to used to working alone before the revival .. ;-) >>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>> >>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>> >>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>> >>>> >>>> Donovan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>> VP >>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > "Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi "

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