Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-(

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texte = Just tried this on the Iphone... doesn't seem to detect it... :-( Rob On 25-Mar-09, at 4:52 PM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi wrote: > I'm using this code right now. > I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it seems to work > for most smart phones I've tested.... Although it's not tested on > the iPhone. > > [text]accept=[GETMIMEHEADER name=Accept][/text] > [text]celldetected=[/text] > [showif [url][accept][/url]=[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] > [text]wapagent=T[/text] > [/showif] > [showif [wapagent]=T] > [text]celldetected=T[/text] > [/showif] > [showif [celldetected]=T] > [redirect url=/mobi/index.tpl] > [/showif] > > Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com > ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- > Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 > Service: 973.413.8213 > Training: 973.413.8214 > Fax: 973.413.8217 > > http://www.jewelerwebsites.com > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc > http://www.psiprime.com > > > > Rob wrote: >> Dan, >> >> I just got involved due to a technical request, and haven't had >> much to do with the site involved. I think its just being handled >> generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer >> blackberry's and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older >> styles a lot of positional elements are off. It looks like its just >> set to a standard width of 320. I know the person working on it is >> on this list, and its up to him if he wishes to expand on it more. >> >> The detection was actually the easy part, and even easier now with >> the list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and detect >> size as well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump them >> all in, and months to find them all. With the shelf live of must >> phones, I think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here is a >> link to the file I used, but for the most part, I went thru some of >> the server logs for the site involved, as the list didn't seem up >> to date. I haven't even heard of half these things.... >> >> http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip >> >> More info, as well as files, at this link: >> http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-discussion-index/ >> >> And what I'm currently using is this: >> --------------- >> [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/ >> url]" ^ "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Samsung")| >> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/ >> url]" ^ "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Casio")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "T- >> Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket PC")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >> "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Cingular")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" >> ^ "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows CE")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content Viewer")|("[url][browsername] >> [/url]" ^ "Google CHTML Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >> "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Nokia")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >> "Opera 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Reqwirelessweb")] >> [Then][REDIRECT url=mobile/index.html][/Then] >> [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its self [/Else] >> [/if] >> ------------------- >> >> Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization for this >> area in that industry. ... :-( >> >> Rob >> >> >> On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> Rob, >>> >>> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are handling >>> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not yet >>> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices as I can >>> so I can serve mobile-friendly content. >>> >>> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source ( http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ >>> ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant (for my purposes) data and >>> would require what appears to be a great deal of work and constant >>> upkeep, and/or >>> >>> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script. Haven't tried >>> it. Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do things >>> via WebDNA. >>> >>> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size is under, >>> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that won't always >>> work since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >>> >>> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most popular >>> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them all. It >>> would be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard >>> descriptor to their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or >>> somethinglike that. Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >>> >>> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this with a >>> single line of code" response ** >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >>> Rob wrote: >>>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>>> Rob >>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead of my >>>>>> own... got to used to working alone before the revival .. ;-) >>>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>>> >>>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>>> >>>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Donovan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>> VP >>>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Brian Fries 2009)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( ("Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi " 2009)
  3. RE: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( ("Michael A. DeLorenzo" 2009)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
  5. RE: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( ("Michael A. DeLorenzo" 2009)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Steve Craig 2009)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( ( 2009)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Bob Minor 2009)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( ( 2009)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( ("Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi " 2009)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( ("Dan Strong" 2009)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Paul Willis 2009)
  19. [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-( (Rob 2009)
Just tried this on the Iphone... doesn't seem to detect it... :-( Rob On 25-Mar-09, at 4:52 PM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi wrote: > I'm using this code right now. > I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it seems to work > for most smart phones I've tested.... Although it's not tested on > the iPhone. > > [text]accept=[GETMIMEHEADER name=Accept][/text] > [text]celldetected=[/text] > [showif [url][accept][/url]=[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] > [text]wapagent=T[/text] > [/showif] > [showif [wapagent]=T] > [text]celldetected=T[/text] > [/showif] > [showif [celldetected]=T] > [redirect url=/mobi/index.tpl] > [/showif] > > Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com > ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- > Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 > Service: 973.413.8213 > Training: 973.413.8214 > Fax: 973.413.8217 > > http://www.jewelerwebsites.com > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc > http://www.psiprime.com > > > > Rob wrote: >> Dan, >> >> I just got involved due to a technical request, and haven't had >> much to do with the site involved. I think its just being handled >> generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer >> blackberry's and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older >> styles a lot of positional elements are off. It looks like its just >> set to a standard width of 320. I know the person working on it is >> on this list, and its up to him if he wishes to expand on it more. >> >> The detection was actually the easy part, and even easier now with >> the list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and detect >> size as well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump them >> all in, and months to find them all. With the shelf live of must >> phones, I think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here is a >> link to the file I used, but for the most part, I went thru some of >> the server logs for the site involved, as the list didn't seem up >> to date. I haven't even heard of half these things.... >> >> http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip >> >> More info, as well as files, at this link: >> http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-discussion-index/ >> >> And what I'm currently using is this: >> --------------- >> [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/ >> url]" ^ "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Samsung")| >> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/ >> url]" ^ "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Casio")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "T- >> Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket PC")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >> "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Cingular")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" >> ^ "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows CE")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content Viewer")|("[url][browsername] >> [/url]" ^ "Google CHTML Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >> "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Nokia")|("[url] >> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >> "Opera 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Reqwirelessweb")] >> [Then][REDIRECT url=mobile/index.html][/Then] >> [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its self [/Else] >> [/if] >> ------------------- >> >> Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization for this >> area in that industry. ... :-( >> >> Rob >> >> >> On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> Rob, >>> >>> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are handling >>> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not yet >>> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices as I can >>> so I can serve mobile-friendly content. >>> >>> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source ( http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ >>> ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant (for my purposes) data and >>> would require what appears to be a great deal of work and constant >>> upkeep, and/or >>> >>> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script. Haven't tried >>> it. Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do things >>> via WebDNA. >>> >>> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size is under, >>> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that won't always >>> work since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >>> >>> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most popular >>> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them all. It >>> would be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard >>> descriptor to their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or >>> somethinglike that. Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >>> >>> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this with a >>> single line of code" response ** >>> -Dan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >>> Rob wrote: >>>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>>> Rob >>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead of my >>>>>> own... got to used to working alone before the revival .. ;-) >>>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>>> >>>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>>> >>>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Donovan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>> VP >>>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ Rob

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