Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-(
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texte = First one worked, second did not. >Here is a test of both methods if anyone wants to=20 >confirm: > >Using REFERRER >http://kalvanna.com/mobile2.dna > >Using GETMIMEHEADER >http://kalvanna.com/mobile3.dna > >Not sure why the second one didn't work with the=20 >iphone... :-( .. would have been a heck of a lot=20 >easier... > >Rob > >On 25-Mar-09, at 5:03 PM, Rob wrote: > >> Just tried this on the Iphone... doesn't seem to detect=20 >>it... :-( >> >> Rob >> >> >> On 25-Mar-09, at 4:52 PM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi=20 >>wrote: >> >>> I'm using this code right now. >>> I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it=20 >>>seems to =20 >>> work for most smart phones I've tested.... Although it's=20 >>>not tested =20 >>> on the iPhone. >>> >>> [text]accept=3D[GETMIMEHEADER name=3DAccept][/text] >>> [text]celldetected=3D[/text] >>> [showif [url][accept][/url]=3D[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] >>> [text]wapagent=3DT[/text] >>> [/showif] >>> [showif [wapagent]=3DT] >>> [text]celldetected=3DT[/text] >>> [/showif] >>> [showif [celldetected]=3DT] >>> [redirect url=3D/mobi/index.tpl] >>> [/showif] >>> >>> Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com >>> ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- >>> Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. >>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>> Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 >>> Service: 973.413.8213 >>> Training: 973.413.8214 >>> Fax: 973.413.8217 >>> >>> http://www.jewelerwebsites.com >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc >>> http://www.psiprime.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Rob wrote: >>>> Dan, >>>> >>>> I just got involved due to a technical request, and=20 >>>>haven't had =20 >>>> much to do with the site involved. I think its just=20 >>>>being handled =20 >>>> generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer=20 >>>>=20 >>>> blackberry's and iphones, it renders correctly, but on=20 >>>>the older =20 >>>> styles a lot of positional elements are off. It looks=20 >>>>like its =20 >>>> just set to a standard width of 320. I know the person=20 >>>>working on =20 >>>> it is on this list, and its up to him if he wishes to=20 >>>>expand on it =20 >>>> more. >>>> >>>> The detection was actually the easy part, and even=20 >>>>easier now with =20 >>>> the list help. I would imagine you could expand on it=20 >>>>and detect =20 >>>> size as well, but that would probably take a few hours=20 >>>>to dump =20 >>>> them all in, and months to find them all. With the shelf=20 >>>>live of =20 >>>> must phones, I think we'll just stick to the newer=20 >>>>versions. Here =20 >>>> is a link to the file I used, but for the most part, I=20 >>>>went thru =20 >>>> some of the server logs for the site involved, as the=20 >>>>list didn't =20 >>>> seem up to date. I haven't even heard of half these=20 >>>>things.... >>>> >>>> http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip >>>> >>>> More info, as well as files, at this link: >>>> http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-= discussion-index/ >>>> >>>> And what I'm currently using is this: >>>> --------------- >>>> [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/=20 >>>> url]" ^ "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Samsung")|=20 >>>> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/=20 >>>> url]" ^ "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Casio")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "T-=20 >>>> Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket=20 >>>>PC")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera=20 >>>>Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ =20 >>>> "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Cingular")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" =20 >>>> ^ "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows=20 >>>>CE")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content Viewer")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML=20 >>>>Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/=20 >>>> url]" ^ "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Nokia")|=20 >>>> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/=20 >>>> url]" ^ "Opera 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ =20 >>>> "Reqwirelessweb")] >>>> [Then][REDIRECT url=3Dmobile/index.html][/Then] >>>> [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its=20 >>>>self [/Else] >>>> [/if] >>>> ------------------- >>>> >>>> Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization=20 >>>>for this =20 >>>> area in that industry. ... :-( >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rob, >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are=20 >>>>>handling =20 >>>>> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not=20 >>>>>yet =20 >>>>> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices=20 >>>>>as I can =20 >>>>> so I can serve mobile-friendly content. >>>>> >>>>> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source (=20 >>>>>http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/=20 >>>>> ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant (for my purposes)=20 >>>>>data and =20 >>>>> would require what appears to be a great deal of work=20 >>>>>and =20 >>>>> constant upkeep, and/or >>>>> >>>>> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script.=20 >>>>>Haven't tried =20 >>>>> it. Not against using php when I need to, but I try to=20 >>>>>do things =20 >>>>> via WebDNA. >>>>> >>>>> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size=20 >>>>>is under, =20 >>>>> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that=20 >>>>>won't always =20 >>>>> work since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >>>>> >>>>> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most=20 >>>>>popular =20 >>>>> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them=20 >>>>>all. It =20 >>>>> would be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> descriptor to their USER AGENT header, like --mobile--=20 >>>>>or =20 >>>>> somethinglike that. Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >>>>> >>>>> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this=20 >>>>>with a =20 >>>>> single line of code" response ** >>>>> -Dan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >>>>> Rob
wrote: >>>>>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>>>>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>>>>> Rob >>>>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead=20 >>>>>>>>of =20 >>>>>>>> my own... got to used to working alone before the =20 >>>>>>>> revival .. ;-) >>>>>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --=20 >>>>>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> VP >>>>>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>>>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>>>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>>>>to >>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>>>to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>>to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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First one worked, second did not. >Here is a test of both methods if anyone wants to=20 >confirm: > >Using REFERRER >http://kalvanna.com/mobile2.dna > >Using GETMIMEHEADER >http://kalvanna.com/mobile3.dna > >Not sure why the second one didn't work with the=20 >iphone... :-( .. would have been a heck of a lot=20 >easier... > >Rob > >On 25-Mar-09, at 5:03 PM, Rob wrote: > >> Just tried this on the Iphone... doesn't seem to detect=20 >>it... :-( >> >> Rob >> >> >> On 25-Mar-09, at 4:52 PM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi=20 >>wrote: >> >>> I'm using this code right now. >>> I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it=20 >>>seems to =20 >>> work for most smart phones I've tested.... Although it's=20 >>>not tested =20 >>> on the iPhone. >>> >>> [text]accept=3D[GETMIMEHEADER name=3DAccept][/text] >>> [text]celldetected=3D[/text] >>> [showif [url][accept][/url]=3D[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] >>> [text]wapagent=3DT[/text] >>> [/showif] >>> [showif [wapagent]=3DT] >>> [text]celldetected=3DT[/text] >>> [/showif] >>> [showif [celldetected]=3DT] >>> [redirect url=3D/mobi/index.tpl] >>> [/showif] >>> >>> Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com >>> ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- >>> Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. >>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>> Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 >>> Service: 973.413.8213 >>> Training: 973.413.8214 >>> Fax: 973.413.8217 >>> >>> http://www.jewelerwebsites.com >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc >>> http://www.psiprime.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Rob wrote: >>>> Dan, >>>> >>>> I just got involved due to a technical request, and=20 >>>>haven't had =20 >>>> much to do with the site involved. I think its just=20 >>>>being handled =20 >>>> generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer=20 >>>>=20 >>>> blackberry's and iphones, it renders correctly, but on=20 >>>>the older =20 >>>> styles a lot of positional elements are off. It looks=20 >>>>like its =20 >>>> just set to a standard width of 320. I know the person=20 >>>>working on =20 >>>> it is on this list, and its up to him if he wishes to=20 >>>>expand on it =20 >>>> more. >>>> >>>> The detection was actually the easy part, and even=20 >>>>easier now with =20 >>>> the list help. I would imagine you could expand on it=20 >>>>and detect =20 >>>> size as well, but that would probably take a few hours=20 >>>>to dump =20 >>>> them all in, and months to find them all. With the shelf=20 >>>>live of =20 >>>> must phones, I think we'll just stick to the newer=20 >>>>versions. Here =20 >>>> is a link to the file I used, but for the most part, I=20 >>>>went thru =20 >>>> some of the server logs for the site involved, as the=20 >>>>list didn't =20 >>>> seem up to date. I haven't even heard of half these=20 >>>>things.... >>>> >>>> http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip >>>> >>>> More info, as well as files, at this link: >>>> http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-= discussion-index/ >>>> >>>> And what I'm currently using is this: >>>> --------------- >>>> [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/=20 >>>> url]" ^ "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Samsung")|=20 >>>> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/=20 >>>> url]" ^ "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Casio")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "T-=20 >>>> Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket=20 >>>>PC")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera=20 >>>>Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ =20 >>>> "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Cingular")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" =20 >>>> ^ "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows=20 >>>>CE")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content Viewer")|("[url]=20 >>>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML=20 >>>>Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/=20 >>>> url]" ^ "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Nokia")|=20 >>>> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^=20 >>>>"Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/=20 >>>> url]" ^ "Opera 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ =20 >>>> "Reqwirelessweb")] >>>> [Then][REDIRECT url=3Dmobile/index.html][/Then] >>>> [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its=20 >>>>self [/Else] >>>> [/if] >>>> ------------------- >>>> >>>> Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization=20 >>>>for this =20 >>>> area in that industry. ... :-( >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rob, >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are=20 >>>>>handling =20 >>>>> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not=20 >>>>>yet =20 >>>>> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices=20 >>>>>as I can =20 >>>>> so I can serve mobile-friendly content. >>>>> >>>>> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source (=20 >>>>>http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/=20 >>>>> ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant (for my purposes)=20 >>>>>data and =20 >>>>> would require what appears to be a great deal of work=20 >>>>>and =20 >>>>> constant upkeep, and/or >>>>> >>>>> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script.=20 >>>>>Haven't tried =20 >>>>> it. Not against using php when I need to, but I try to=20 >>>>>do things =20 >>>>> via WebDNA. >>>>> >>>>> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size=20 >>>>>is under, =20 >>>>> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that=20 >>>>>won't always =20 >>>>> work since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >>>>> >>>>> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most=20 >>>>>popular =20 >>>>> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them=20 >>>>>all. It =20 >>>>> would be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> descriptor to their USER AGENT header, like --mobile--=20 >>>>>or =20 >>>>> somethinglike that. Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >>>>> >>>>> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this=20 >>>>>with a =20 >>>>> single line of code" response ** >>>>> -Dan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>>>>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>>>>> Rob >>>>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead=20 >>>>>>>>of =20 >>>>>>>> my own... got to used to working alone before the =20 >>>>>>>> revival .. ;-) >>>>>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --=20 >>>>>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> VP >>>>>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>>>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>>>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>>>>to >>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>>>to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>>to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>>to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>>to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed=20 >>to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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