Re: [WebDNA] I'm stuck... :-(
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texte = Here is a test of both methods if anyone wants to confirm: Using REFERRER http://kalvanna.com/mobile2.dna Using GETMIMEHEADER http://kalvanna.com/mobile3.dna Not sure why the second one didn't work with the iphone... :-( .. would have been a heck of a lot easier... Rob On 25-Mar-09, at 5:03 PM, Rob wrote: > Just tried this on the Iphone... doesn't seem to detect it... :-( > > Rob > > > On 25-Mar-09, at 4:52 PM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi wrote: > >> I'm using this code right now. >> I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it seems to >> work for most smart phones I've tested.... Although it's not tested >> on the iPhone. >> >> [text]accept=[GETMIMEHEADER name=Accept][/text] >> [text]celldetected=[/text] >> [showif [url][accept][/url]=[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] >> [text]wapagent=T[/text] >> [/showif] >> [showif [wapagent]=T] >> [text]celldetected=T[/text] >> [/showif] >> [showif [celldetected]=T] >> [redirect url=/mobi/index.tpl] >> [/showif] >> >> Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com >> ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- >> Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. >> Totowa, NJ 07512 >> Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 >> Service: 973.413.8213 >> Training: 973.413.8214 >> Fax: 973.413.8217 >> >> http://www.jewelerwebsites.com >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc >> http://www.psiprime.com >> >> >> >> Rob wrote: >>> Dan, >>> >>> I just got involved due to a technical request, and haven't had >>> much to do with the site involved. I think its just being handled >>> generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer >>> blackberry's and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older >>> styles a lot of positional elements are off. It looks like its >>> just set to a standard width of 320. I know the person working on >>> it is on this list, and its up to him if he wishes to expand on it >>> more. >>> >>> The detection was actually the easy part, and even easier now with >>> the list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and detect >>> size as well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump >>> them all in, and months to find them all. With the shelf live of >>> must phones, I think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here >>> is a link to the file I used, but for the most part, I went thru >>> some of the server logs for the site involved, as the list didn't >>> seem up to date. I haven't even heard of half these things.... >>> >>> http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip >>> >>> More info, as well as files, at this link: >>> http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-discussion-index/ >>> >>> And what I'm currently using is this: >>> --------------- >>> [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/ >>> url]" ^ "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Samsung")| >>> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/ >>> url]" ^ "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Casio")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "T- >>> Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket PC")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >>> "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Cingular")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" >>> ^ "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows CE")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content Viewer")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/ >>> url]" ^ "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Nokia")| >>> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/ >>> url]" ^ "Opera 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >>> "Reqwirelessweb")] >>> [Then][REDIRECT url=mobile/index.html][/Then] >>> [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its self [/Else] >>> [/if] >>> ------------------- >>> >>> Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization for this >>> area in that industry. ... :-( >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>> >>>> Rob, >>>> >>>> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are handling >>>> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not yet >>>> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices as I can >>>> so I can serve mobile-friendly content. >>>> >>>> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source ( http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ >>>> ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant (for my purposes) data and >>>> would require what appears to be a great deal of work and >>>> constant upkeep, and/or >>>> >>>> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script. Haven't tried >>>> it. Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do things >>>> via WebDNA. >>>> >>>> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size is under, >>>> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that won't always >>>> work since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >>>> >>>> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most popular >>>> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them all. It >>>> would be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard >>>> descriptor to their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or >>>> somethinglike that. Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >>>> >>>> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this with a >>>> single line of code" response ** >>>> -Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >>>> Rob
wrote: >>>>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>>>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>>>> Rob >>>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead of >>>>>>> my own... got to used to working alone before the >>>>>>> revival .. ;-) >>>>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>>>> >>>>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>>>> >>>>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Donovan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> VP >>>>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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Here is a test of both methods if anyone wants to confirm: Using REFERRER http://kalvanna.com/mobile2.dna Using GETMIMEHEADER http://kalvanna.com/mobile3.dna Not sure why the second one didn't work with the iphone... :-( .. would have been a heck of a lot easier... Rob On 25-Mar-09, at 5:03 PM, Rob wrote: > Just tried this on the Iphone... doesn't seem to detect it... :-( > > Rob > > > On 25-Mar-09, at 4:52 PM, Psi Prime, Matthew A Perosi wrote: > >> I'm using this code right now. >> I have not tested it on every phone imaginable, but it seems to >> work for most smart phones I've tested.... Although it's not tested >> on the iPhone. >> >> [text]accept=[GETMIMEHEADER name=Accept][/text] >> [text]celldetected=[/text] >> [showif [url][accept][/url]=[url]text/vnd.wap.wml[/url]] >> [text]wapagent=T[/text] >> [/showif] >> [showif [wapagent]=T] >> [text]celldetected=T[/text] >> [/showif] >> [showif [celldetected]=T] >> [redirect url=/mobi/index.tpl] >> [/showif] >> >> Matthew A Perosi JewelerWebsites.com >> ------------------------------by Psi Prime------- >> Senior Web Developer 323 Union Blvd. >> Totowa, NJ 07512 >> Pre-Sales: 888.872.0274 >> Service: 973.413.8213 >> Training: 973.413.8214 >> Fax: 973.413.8217 >> >> http://www.jewelerwebsites.com >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_Prime%2C_Inc >> http://www.psiprime.com >> >> >> >> Rob wrote: >>> Dan, >>> >>> I just got involved due to a technical request, and haven't had >>> much to do with the site involved. I think its just being handled >>> generically, much like yours. I did notice on the newer >>> blackberry's and iphones, it renders correctly, but on the older >>> styles a lot of positional elements are off. It looks like its >>> just set to a standard width of 320. I know the person working on >>> it is on this list, and its up to him if he wishes to expand on it >>> more. >>> >>> The detection was actually the easy part, and even easier now with >>> the list help. I would imagine you could expand on it and detect >>> size as well, but that would probably take a few hours to dump >>> them all in, and months to find them all. With the shelf live of >>> must phones, I think we'll just stick to the newer versions. Here >>> is a link to the file I used, but for the most part, I went thru >>> some of the server logs for the site involved, as the list didn't >>> seem up to date. I haven't even heard of half these things.... >>> >>> http://homepage.mac.com/rforest/downloads/mobile.zip >>> >>> More info, as well as files, at this link: >>> http://studiohyperset.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/mobile-redirect-code-discussion-index/ >>> >>> And what I'm currently using is this: >>> --------------- >>> [If ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "iPhone")|("[url][browsername][/ >>> url]" ^ "Blackberry")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Samsung")| >>> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Motorola")|("[url][browsername][/ >>> url]" ^ "HTC")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Casio")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Orange")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "T- >>> Mobile")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Pocket PC")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Opera Mini")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >>> "Sharp")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Cingular")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "SonyEricsson")|("[url][browsername][/url]" >>> ^ "Palm")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Windows CE")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Mobile Content Viewer")|("[url] >>> [browsername][/url]" ^ "Google CHTML Proxy")|("[url][browsername][/ >>> url]" ^ "Palmsource")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Nokia")| >>> ("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ "Smartphone")|("[url][browsername][/ >>> url]" ^ "Opera 3.62")|("[url][browsername][/url]" ^ >>> "Reqwirelessweb")] >>> [Then][REDIRECT url=mobile/index.html][/Then] >>> [Else] Alternate redirect here, or leave blank if its self [/Else] >>> [/if] >>> ------------------- >>> >>> Sure would be nice to see some type of standardization for this >>> area in that industry. ... :-( >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> On 25-Mar-09, at 3:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>> >>>> Rob, >>>> >>>> I'm curious how you (or anyone for that matter) is/are handling >>>> detection of other mobile devices. I have tried (and not yet >>>> resolved) a way to catch all (or as many) mobile devices as I can >>>> so I can serve mobile-friendly content. >>>> >>>> 1) I've thought about using the WRFL data source ( http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ >>>> ) but it contains a lot of irrelevant (for my purposes) data and >>>> would require what appears to be a great deal of work and >>>> constant upkeep, and/or >>>> >>>> 2) http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - php script. Haven't tried >>>> it. Not against using php when I need to, but I try to do things >>>> via WebDNA. >>>> >>>> 2) Detecting screen-size via javascript (if screen size is under, >>>> say, 400px wide then serve mobile.css) ... but that won't always >>>> work since not all mobile devices speak javascript... >>>> >>>> For now I'm doing like you are and detecting the most popular >>>> devices, but I'd really love to be able to catch them all. It >>>> would be nice if all mobile devices would add a standard >>>> descriptor to their USER AGENT header, like --mobile-- or >>>> somethinglike that. Anyhow, like I said, just curious. >>>> >>>> ** Cue the programmer with the "duh, you do it like this with a >>>> single line of code" response ** >>>> -Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:29 -0600 >>>> Rob wrote: >>>>> Yup.... Got it... Thanks.. >>>>> Works perfect! ... Thanks for all the help... >>>>> Rob >>>>> On 25-Mar-09, at 2:16 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>>> Darn.... I gotta remember to use the online docs instead of >>>>>>> my own... got to used to working alone before the >>>>>>> revival .. ;-) >>>>>>> Thanks Paul... >>>>>> >>>>>> You will want to encode browsername most likely.. >>>>>> >>>>>> [if "[url][browsername][/url]"... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Donovan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822 >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> VP >>>>>> WebDNA Software Corporation >>>>>> 16192 Coastal Highway >>>>>> Lewes, DE 19958 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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